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Ethics and Law
Hi Tracy,
You might like to check
out the NRE Nursing Research
Engine - I got fourteen results for a search using "ethics". Hopefully
there should be something you need there.
Nigel <webmaster@thornbury-nursing-services.co.uk>
- Wednesday, May 31, 2000 at 14:57:40 (BST)
- Wednesday, May 31, 2000 at 14:57:40 (BST)
Ethics and law
Does anyone out there know of a web address which features this subject.
Tracy Stancer <stancer princess 1@aol>
- Wednesday, May 31, 2000 at 14:06:28 (BST)
Does anyone out there know of a web address which features this subject.
Tracy Stancer <stancer princess 1@aol>
- Wednesday, May 31, 2000 at 14:06:28 (BST)
Salary Vs. POVERTY
Firstly, I'd like to say hello to Anne Marie Osborne, who I recently met at a Unison student nurse reps training day. Secondly, whoever slagged off Karen Towner in an earlier message, well they don't really know what they are talking about because I recently met Karen, at the forementioned training event and I happen to know that she slaves her guts out for us student nurses. I doubt we'd have got this far into the campaign if it wasn't for her. So whoever it was that said that, pull your head out of your snotty RCN arse for the good of us all. Are there any student nurses from Sheffield who are interseted in running a local campaign for the salary? If student teachers can get what they've got then surely we can do better. Did anyone know that the Co-operative bank are brilliant for loans for student nurses? They do charge interest but in my experience they are the only bank who will lend us money. For further information call 0345 240 752.
Matt Richardson <nrb99mjr@shef.ac.uk>
- Tuesday, May 30, 2000 at 22:53:21 (BST)
Firstly, I'd like to say hello to Anne Marie Osborne, who I recently met at a Unison student nurse reps training day. Secondly, whoever slagged off Karen Towner in an earlier message, well they don't really know what they are talking about because I recently met Karen, at the forementioned training event and I happen to know that she slaves her guts out for us student nurses. I doubt we'd have got this far into the campaign if it wasn't for her. So whoever it was that said that, pull your head out of your snotty RCN arse for the good of us all. Are there any student nurses from Sheffield who are interseted in running a local campaign for the salary? If student teachers can get what they've got then surely we can do better. Did anyone know that the Co-operative bank are brilliant for loans for student nurses? They do charge interest but in my experience they are the only bank who will lend us money. For further information call 0345 240 752.
Matt Richardson <nrb99mjr@shef.ac.uk>
- Tuesday, May 30, 2000 at 22:53:21 (BST)
Successfull campaigning
to increase bursaries
Hello to all you fellow dissilusioned student nurses out ther I have been reading with great interest some of the emails sent in. I would like to take time out to write about a succesfull campaign which took place in london on the 16th of May my name is Anne Marie O'Rourke and i am a third year student nurse at southbank university Guys and St Thomas trust I am one of a few dedicated students who are intent on changing our situation. In responce to the removal of clinical travel expences petitions were circulated to all the universities across london and the results were incredible within a few short weeks 1,500 names were collected it was our intention to present the petitions to 10 downing street to be followed by a sleep out outside the department of health. Posters were circulated to the universities giving details of where to meet etc.The responce surpassed any of our expectations over 100 student nurses in uniform marched down to no 10 downing street as we exchanged stories of personal hardship amongst ourselves the message became clear to the media that what we get is no longer acceptable 2.60 an hour is an insult and the media were sympathetic to our cause so much so we secured interviews with the BBC ITV and live coverage on the evening news.The papers were quick to follow suit and interviews were conducted with the Evening standard Nursing times and with local london news papers. The responce was not only encoraging but a real sence of commitment and solidarity was felt by all the students who braved a unperdictable may's night. Public support was given and we even had visits from members of the public armed with flasks of tea as well as an never enbding supply of chocolates out went the diet I was sleeping on the streets of london Unison provided the perks which inc travel and food and a good time was had by all especially when a live interview was conducted by BBC radio at approx 3 in the morning we also had a few sympathetic Mps come and visit us where we were promptly invited to the houses of parliment for FREE coffee and toilet facilities. I left the pavements of london to do a long day at guys hospital (As part of placement) where the responce from the nurses and doctors was not only encouraging but has made me more determined to fight to reinstate students to employee status as well as providing safe and affordable accomidation and reinstating travel expences.My message is clear do get involved as it is only us who have the voice and the power to change things. We need to stand together in order to raise the profile of our situation As a result of the sleepout campaigning has began for futher campaigns and i urge all students across the country to participate whatever the campaign if any student is interested in getting involved then do not hesitate to contact me at orourke@cwcom.net I look forward to hearing from you all
Anne Marie O'Rourke <orourke@cwcom.net>
- Tuesday, May 30, 2000 at 17:32:38 (BST)
Hello to all you fellow dissilusioned student nurses out ther I have been reading with great interest some of the emails sent in. I would like to take time out to write about a succesfull campaign which took place in london on the 16th of May my name is Anne Marie O'Rourke and i am a third year student nurse at southbank university Guys and St Thomas trust I am one of a few dedicated students who are intent on changing our situation. In responce to the removal of clinical travel expences petitions were circulated to all the universities across london and the results were incredible within a few short weeks 1,500 names were collected it was our intention to present the petitions to 10 downing street to be followed by a sleep out outside the department of health. Posters were circulated to the universities giving details of where to meet etc.The responce surpassed any of our expectations over 100 student nurses in uniform marched down to no 10 downing street as we exchanged stories of personal hardship amongst ourselves the message became clear to the media that what we get is no longer acceptable 2.60 an hour is an insult and the media were sympathetic to our cause so much so we secured interviews with the BBC ITV and live coverage on the evening news.The papers were quick to follow suit and interviews were conducted with the Evening standard Nursing times and with local london news papers. The responce was not only encoraging but a real sence of commitment and solidarity was felt by all the students who braved a unperdictable may's night. Public support was given and we even had visits from members of the public armed with flasks of tea as well as an never enbding supply of chocolates out went the diet I was sleeping on the streets of london Unison provided the perks which inc travel and food and a good time was had by all especially when a live interview was conducted by BBC radio at approx 3 in the morning we also had a few sympathetic Mps come and visit us where we were promptly invited to the houses of parliment for FREE coffee and toilet facilities. I left the pavements of london to do a long day at guys hospital (As part of placement) where the responce from the nurses and doctors was not only encouraging but has made me more determined to fight to reinstate students to employee status as well as providing safe and affordable accomidation and reinstating travel expences.My message is clear do get involved as it is only us who have the voice and the power to change things. We need to stand together in order to raise the profile of our situation As a result of the sleepout campaigning has began for futher campaigns and i urge all students across the country to participate whatever the campaign if any student is interested in getting involved then do not hesitate to contact me at orourke@cwcom.net I look forward to hearing from you all
Anne Marie O'Rourke <orourke@cwcom.net>
- Tuesday, May 30, 2000 at 17:32:38 (BST)
Student nurses
poverty
I would like to say that Unison are offering to support student nurses campaign for salaries instead of bursaries. therefore we really need to use them as a resource. I am a student nurse and single mother, once I have paid my rent and my childminder I receive around £30 a week less than I would if I was on income support. I urge all nursing students to try to make the public aware of our poverty. Most people do not know that we are struggling on a meagre bursary, please write to local and national press, nursing publications even TV programmes. Students are dropping out or amassing great debts,
Anne-Marie Osborne <h9150376@hud.ac.uk>
- Tuesday, May 30, 2000 at 16:47:21 (BST)
I would like to say that Unison are offering to support student nurses campaign for salaries instead of bursaries. therefore we really need to use them as a resource. I am a student nurse and single mother, once I have paid my rent and my childminder I receive around £30 a week less than I would if I was on income support. I urge all nursing students to try to make the public aware of our poverty. Most people do not know that we are struggling on a meagre bursary, please write to local and national press, nursing publications even TV programmes. Students are dropping out or amassing great debts,
Anne-Marie Osborne <h9150376@hud.ac.uk>
- Tuesday, May 30, 2000 at 16:47:21 (BST)
:-)
I agree Joanne and the best of luck with your exams!
Claire <ClaireMacL@aol.com>
- Tuesday, May 30, 2000 at 01:20:20 (BST)
I agree Joanne and the best of luck with your exams!
Claire <ClaireMacL@aol.com>
- Tuesday, May 30, 2000 at 01:20:20 (BST)
Degree/Diploma
training
Hi claire thanks for the reply! Yeah I can well imagine that this is all going on on boths sides of the coin..have worked alongside diploma students! there are merits and cons with both courses, but my grouch was can't we all work together and get rid of some of the archaic attitudes prevalent amongst some qualified staff. I did the degree cos I want to specialise and was advised that the degree was the only route open to me. It sucks in part and is good in others..but just wish this element was part of the already damn hard work we all have to put in for little pay, credit or reward.. guess whos got exams this week ~smile! sorry to groan and thanks for your thoughts jojo XX
Jo Lee <jo@kunchai.freeserve.co.uk>
- Monday, May 29, 2000 at 19:20:09 (BST)
Hi claire thanks for the reply! Yeah I can well imagine that this is all going on on boths sides of the coin..have worked alongside diploma students! there are merits and cons with both courses, but my grouch was can't we all work together and get rid of some of the archaic attitudes prevalent amongst some qualified staff. I did the degree cos I want to specialise and was advised that the degree was the only route open to me. It sucks in part and is good in others..but just wish this element was part of the already damn hard work we all have to put in for little pay, credit or reward.. guess whos got exams this week ~smile! sorry to groan and thanks for your thoughts jojo XX
Jo Lee <jo@kunchai.freeserve.co.uk>
- Monday, May 29, 2000 at 19:20:09 (BST)
Re: Diploma Vs
Degree
Hi Jo, Personally, I have seen the other side of the coin! Most people I have talked to have said that the degree is the way to the future and the diploma should be scrapped. Personally, funding and clinical time were the reasons I done the diploma, I will top up to the degree when qualified but have my doubts about certain aspects of the degree course. I would think that your experience is unusual though. Good luck in finding more understanding nurses on wards in the future :-)
claire <clairemacl@aol.com>
- Sunday, May 28, 2000 at 02:38:05 (BST)
Hi Jo, Personally, I have seen the other side of the coin! Most people I have talked to have said that the degree is the way to the future and the diploma should be scrapped. Personally, funding and clinical time were the reasons I done the diploma, I will top up to the degree when qualified but have my doubts about certain aspects of the degree course. I would think that your experience is unusual though. Good luck in finding more understanding nurses on wards in the future :-)
claire <clairemacl@aol.com>
- Sunday, May 28, 2000 at 02:38:05 (BST)
Degree v Diploma
training
Hello people - I'm a 2nd yr degree nurse at Hull and would like to know if anyone else is sick of the engineered divide between our two courses? Attitudes from qualified staff and some students make life a misery on placements..few know what degree training is and vice versa! Surely we are all in this to one end to be good nurses ! sigh! sorry to moan but I'm fed up of being ignored or slighted cos of the course I'm on..anyone else have any thoughts?? be happy to chat ~smile! jo
Jo Lee <jo@kunchai.freeserve.co.uk>
- Thursday, May 25, 2000 at 21:04:11 (BST)
Hello people - I'm a 2nd yr degree nurse at Hull and would like to know if anyone else is sick of the engineered divide between our two courses? Attitudes from qualified staff and some students make life a misery on placements..few know what degree training is and vice versa! Surely we are all in this to one end to be good nurses ! sigh! sorry to moan but I'm fed up of being ignored or slighted cos of the course I'm on..anyone else have any thoughts?? be happy to chat ~smile! jo
Jo Lee <jo@kunchai.freeserve.co.uk>
- Thursday, May 25, 2000 at 21:04:11 (BST)
Learning Disabilities
Student Nurses?
Having had a quick scan through the messages I've noticed a lack of LD student nurses. If there are any out there I would love to here how you are finding the course.
GFB <bic1@btinternet.com>
- Thursday, May 25, 2000 at 20:52:08 (BST)
Having had a quick scan through the messages I've noticed a lack of LD student nurses. If there are any out there I would love to here how you are finding the course.
GFB <bic1@btinternet.com>
- Thursday, May 25, 2000 at 20:52:08 (BST)
Lack of money
and social life
Hi I'm a first year degree nursing student at Sheffield Hallam. I'm broke, we do a lot more than any other students and should be rewarded for it - lots of money would be great!!!! I'm sure it will be worth it in the end- Ihope!!! good luck everyone
<lin_and_tonic@hotmail.com>
- Thursday, May 25, 2000 at 20:31:23 (BST)
Hi I'm a first year degree nursing student at Sheffield Hallam. I'm broke, we do a lot more than any other students and should be rewarded for it - lots of money would be great!!!! I'm sure it will be worth it in the end- Ihope!!! good luck everyone
<lin_and_tonic@hotmail.com>
- Thursday, May 25, 2000 at 20:31:23 (BST)
Salary v Bursary
Hello all student nurses. We need to continue to raise the profile of this campaign and in order to assist and promote the YES TO PAY NO TO POVERTY campaign I have some stickers, tin badges and a colourful leaflet/poster which I would be pleased to send out. Just get in touch - its good to talk!
Karen Towner <k.towner@unison.co.uk>
- Thursday, May 25, 2000 at 14:35:46 (BST)
Hello all student nurses. We need to continue to raise the profile of this campaign and in order to assist and promote the YES TO PAY NO TO POVERTY campaign I have some stickers, tin badges and a colourful leaflet/poster which I would be pleased to send out. Just get in touch - its good to talk!
Karen Towner <k.towner@unison.co.uk>
- Thursday, May 25, 2000 at 14:35:46 (BST)
YES TO WAGES,
NO TO POVERTY!!!
Hi again, everyone, it's me again. Okay, if anyone wants to know what UNISON are campaigning for regarding us students and our lack of money please mail me and I will tell you. All I can say is they are trying to help us, they aren't mean and nasty people, they are on our side.
Catherine <catherine1jod31@hotmail.com>
- Wednesday, May 24, 2000 at 21:45:10 (BST)
Hi again, everyone, it's me again. Okay, if anyone wants to know what UNISON are campaigning for regarding us students and our lack of money please mail me and I will tell you. All I can say is they are trying to help us, they aren't mean and nasty people, they are on our side.
Catherine <catherine1jod31@hotmail.com>
- Wednesday, May 24, 2000 at 21:45:10 (BST)
NURSE 2000 AWARDS
Have you worked with an exceptional nurse during your training? Has there been someone who has stood out from the crowd? As a Student Nurse you will have more opportunity than most to assess a wide range of different practice. The Nursing Standard Nurse 2000 Respiratory Nurse award is being sponsored by Thornbury Nursing Services & The Scottish Nursing Guild. This award will be presented later this year to recognise and reward good practice in the profession. This high profile & prestigious event will focus the eyes of the country on the achievements of nurses just like you. So on your next placement, acute or community based, have a look around, you may be working with this years Nurse 2000. Applications can be sought from Claire Dolan 020 8423 1066.
Sara James <sara.james@thornbury-nursing-services.co.uk>
- Wednesday, May 24, 2000 at 13:17:54 (BST)
Have you worked with an exceptional nurse during your training? Has there been someone who has stood out from the crowd? As a Student Nurse you will have more opportunity than most to assess a wide range of different practice. The Nursing Standard Nurse 2000 Respiratory Nurse award is being sponsored by Thornbury Nursing Services & The Scottish Nursing Guild. This award will be presented later this year to recognise and reward good practice in the profession. This high profile & prestigious event will focus the eyes of the country on the achievements of nurses just like you. So on your next placement, acute or community based, have a look around, you may be working with this years Nurse 2000. Applications can be sought from Claire Dolan 020 8423 1066.
Sara James <sara.james@thornbury-nursing-services.co.uk>
- Wednesday, May 24, 2000 at 13:17:54 (BST)
Angel
Angel, I tried to email you personally cause all that information would just clog up the noticeboard but your email address didnt work... email me if you want any info :-)
Claire <ClaireMacL@aol.com>
- Wednesday, May 24, 2000 at 00:47:21 (BST)
Angel, I tried to email you personally cause all that information would just clog up the noticeboard but your email address didnt work... email me if you want any info :-)
Claire <ClaireMacL@aol.com>
- Wednesday, May 24, 2000 at 00:47:21 (BST)
Want to be a
nurse!
Hi my name is Angel and I am seriuosly considering nursing as a career. Do you advise it? I have 8 standard grades 1 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 and I am sitting 3 highers this year hoping to get B B C so do you have any useful tips. I want information on what the course consists of and what they do once qualified. I come from a family of nurses Aunt, mum, cousin but they did it a while ago and things have changed since then. I want to go to Dundee to do adult nursing, Thanx
Angel-Hope <wilson@Irene9.fsnet.uk>
- Tuesday, May 23, 2000 at 20:54:59 (BST)
Hi my name is Angel and I am seriuosly considering nursing as a career. Do you advise it? I have 8 standard grades 1 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 and I am sitting 3 highers this year hoping to get B B C so do you have any useful tips. I want information on what the course consists of and what they do once qualified. I come from a family of nurses Aunt, mum, cousin but they did it a while ago and things have changed since then. I want to go to Dundee to do adult nursing, Thanx
Angel-Hope <wilson@Irene9.fsnet.uk>
- Tuesday, May 23, 2000 at 20:54:59 (BST)
Re: Help me
Andrea, there are 3 intakes a year now for the Diploma (Project 2000), March, June and September, I was offered a place in February and was able to choose June or September (Adult Branch). Hope this helps.
Anita Keal <anita.keal@ic24.net>
- Tuesday, May 23, 2000 at 20:39:35 (BST)
Andrea, there are 3 intakes a year now for the Diploma (Project 2000), March, June and September, I was offered a place in February and was able to choose June or September (Adult Branch). Hope this helps.
Anita Keal <anita.keal@ic24.net>
- Tuesday, May 23, 2000 at 20:39:35 (BST)
Re: Help me
Andrea, the process is central, whether you want to be a children's or adult nurse... NHS or private... You have to decide whether you would like to do the degree or the diploma, for the degree, contact UCAS, for the diploma, contact NMAS. I would think you are too late for the degree entry this year since its almost clearing time, but diploma courses start all the time. Not sure what other information you need, but email me if you need any more info ;-)
Claire <ClaireMacL@aol.com>
- Tuesday, May 23, 2000 at 01:16:46 (BST)
Andrea, the process is central, whether you want to be a children's or adult nurse... NHS or private... You have to decide whether you would like to do the degree or the diploma, for the degree, contact UCAS, for the diploma, contact NMAS. I would think you are too late for the degree entry this year since its almost clearing time, but diploma courses start all the time. Not sure what other information you need, but email me if you need any more info ;-)
Claire <ClaireMacL@aol.com>
- Tuesday, May 23, 2000 at 01:16:46 (BST)
HELP ME!!
I need help in finding information on how to be a trainee childrens hospital nurse for the NHS.
Andrea <devil_rob666@yahoo.com>
- Monday, May 22, 2000 at 19:30:03 (BST)
I need help in finding information on how to be a trainee childrens hospital nurse for the NHS.
Andrea <devil_rob666@yahoo.com>
- Monday, May 22, 2000 at 19:30:03 (BST)
CHD RISK FACTORS
Hi Lisa,
I searched for 'Coronary' on the Nursing Research Engine NRE of the Thornbury Nursing Portal and found these results:
Atherosclerosis and Coronary Artery Disease
Infomedics Malaysia - Coronary Heart Disease
I hope this helps.....
HELP !!!
Hi, I am a semester 4 student, has any body got any info regarding the bio psycho-social factors infuencing Coronary Heart Disease, I am a single mum with 2 children and finding this essay a right ball ache.......any HELP would be very much appreciated...living in hope
Lisa <FLO gwi@aol.com>
- Sunday, May 21, 2000 at 21:01:27 (BST)
Hi, I am a semester 4 student, has any body got any info regarding the bio psycho-social factors infuencing Coronary Heart Disease, I am a single mum with 2 children and finding this essay a right ball ache.......any HELP would be very much appreciated...living in hope
Lisa <FLO gwi@aol.com>
- Sunday, May 21, 2000 at 21:01:27 (BST)
UNISON
Regarding a previous message on here about e mails from Karen Towner, I have only had one! She does not pester me. But if you lot are happy with £5,000 a year, if that's what you do in fact get, assuming you are 26 or over, then do nothing. It's your call.
Catherine <catherine1jod31@hotmail.com>
- Sunday, May 21, 2000 at 17:37:10 (BST)
Regarding a previous message on here about e mails from Karen Towner, I have only had one! She does not pester me. But if you lot are happy with £5,000 a year, if that's what you do in fact get, assuming you are 26 or over, then do nothing. It's your call.
Catherine <catherine1jod31@hotmail.com>
- Sunday, May 21, 2000 at 17:37:10 (BST)
Contact Unison
at your peril!
In reply to the earlier comment about contacting Karen Towner at Unison, DONT!, I know that the bursary debate is very important to us all, but if you do you will get on average 15 e-mails per week from her, MY GOD NO!!!!
Nat Mills <nat.nat@lineone.net>
- Sunday, May 21, 2000 at 16:22:38 (BST)
In reply to the earlier comment about contacting Karen Towner at Unison, DONT!, I know that the bursary debate is very important to us all, but if you do you will get on average 15 e-mails per week from her, MY GOD NO!!!!
Nat Mills <nat.nat@lineone.net>
- Sunday, May 21, 2000 at 16:22:38 (BST)
Bursary/Student
web site
Following from the message I left the other day, the web site for finding scholarships and bursary money is www.freefund.com. It is launched toward the end of this month, so I don't know how useful it is, but it all helps eh? Take care everyone.
Heather <heathermcguinness@yahoo.com or jaluhele@aol.com>
- Sunday, May 21, 2000 at 15:33:03 (BST)
Following from the message I left the other day, the web site for finding scholarships and bursary money is www.freefund.com. It is launched toward the end of this month, so I don't know how useful it is, but it all helps eh? Take care everyone.
Heather <heathermcguinness@yahoo.com or jaluhele@aol.com>
- Sunday, May 21, 2000 at 15:33:03 (BST)
Bursaries/UNISON
I am surprised that some of the lasses on this page have not heard from UNISON. All I can suggest is that you try contacting Karen Towner on this address: k.towner@unison.co.uk and ask for her advice - tell her what area you are from and all that. Good luck! Oh, and Tony Blair fobbing us off with loans is complete pants! How dare he!!!
Catherine <catherine1jod31@hotmail.com>
- Friday, May 19, 2000 at 18:18:46 (BST)
I am surprised that some of the lasses on this page have not heard from UNISON. All I can suggest is that you try contacting Karen Towner on this address: k.towner@unison.co.uk and ask for her advice - tell her what area you are from and all that. Good luck! Oh, and Tony Blair fobbing us off with loans is complete pants! How dare he!!!
Catherine <catherine1jod31@hotmail.com>
- Friday, May 19, 2000 at 18:18:46 (BST)
Bursaries
I am due to start my training in October and have tried all ways to increase my income. I contacted Barclays re the career development loan, got the forms, contacted my admissions office only to be told that I can't apply for this loan until I've actually started training because my admissions office will not fill them in until I've started. I don't know if anyone saw the Daily Mirror on Wednesday, but in the Money section there was a small piece about student income. They did suggest a website to try to find funding - can't remember the web site off hand but I will look and post it on here when I find it. I've also sent messages to Unison to find out what's happening regarding the bursary situation but nobody has even bothered to contact me back. Doesn't leave anyone with much hope, does it?
Heather <heathermcguinness@yahoo.com>
- Friday, May 19, 2000 at 09:48:47 (BST)
I am due to start my training in October and have tried all ways to increase my income. I contacted Barclays re the career development loan, got the forms, contacted my admissions office only to be told that I can't apply for this loan until I've actually started training because my admissions office will not fill them in until I've started. I don't know if anyone saw the Daily Mirror on Wednesday, but in the Money section there was a small piece about student income. They did suggest a website to try to find funding - can't remember the web site off hand but I will look and post it on here when I find it. I've also sent messages to Unison to find out what's happening regarding the bursary situation but nobody has even bothered to contact me back. Doesn't leave anyone with much hope, does it?
Heather <heathermcguinness@yahoo.com>
- Friday, May 19, 2000 at 09:48:47 (BST)
Bursaries
I went one step further than contacting my local MP, I contacted Tony Blair regarding our funding. The reply I recieved, (if you choose to believe him) stated that The Bursary system is being reviewed this year. One thing he did say that may be of use to some students is that student nurses can apply for up to an £8000 career development loan from some banks which does not have to be repayed untill after you have qualified. I know this isn't a real solution, but to some it could make a difference to whether they can afford to continue the course.
Chris <cduffy23@btinternet.com>
- Friday, May 19, 2000 at 01:29:30 (BST)
I went one step further than contacting my local MP, I contacted Tony Blair regarding our funding. The reply I recieved, (if you choose to believe him) stated that The Bursary system is being reviewed this year. One thing he did say that may be of use to some students is that student nurses can apply for up to an £8000 career development loan from some banks which does not have to be repayed untill after you have qualified. I know this isn't a real solution, but to some it could make a difference to whether they can afford to continue the course.
Chris <cduffy23@btinternet.com>
- Friday, May 19, 2000 at 01:29:30 (BST)
Help with Community
Study!!
I started my diploma in Sept.99 and at the moment am enjoying (???) semester 2 but struggling with my comm.study. Does anyone have any advice as to where do I start?!! Any help will be greatly appreciated - anything at all - I'm desperate!! Also, could you do me a favour and lie to me and tell me that this gets better! Thanks, I needed that.
Kem <kemsmail1@yahoo.com>
- Saturday, May 13, 2000 at 13:08:00 (BST)
I started my diploma in Sept.99 and at the moment am enjoying (???) semester 2 but struggling with my comm.study. Does anyone have any advice as to where do I start?!! Any help will be greatly appreciated - anything at all - I'm desperate!! Also, could you do me a favour and lie to me and tell me that this gets better! Thanks, I needed that.
Kem <kemsmail1@yahoo.com>
- Saturday, May 13, 2000 at 13:08:00 (BST)
To everyone
Just a quick note to wish everyone post and pre reg a happy nurses day, okay now I'm off to start a twelve hour shift, oh well it was happy for a little while (joke).
Lee <lnorthway@plymouth.ac.uk>
- Friday, May 12, 2000 at 12:35:49 (BST)
Just a quick note to wish everyone post and pre reg a happy nurses day, okay now I'm off to start a twelve hour shift, oh well it was happy for a little while (joke).
Lee <lnorthway@plymouth.ac.uk>
- Friday, May 12, 2000 at 12:35:49 (BST)
Catherine, your pages
are fantastic. Keep it up, you're doing a great job. Heather.
Heather <heathermcguinness@yahoo.com>
- Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 21:32:18 (BST)
Heather <heathermcguinness@yahoo.com>
- Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 21:32:18 (BST)
Try this:
http://pages.about.com/catherineturner/2.html
Catherine
- Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 18:35:19 (BST)
Catherine
- Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 18:35:19 (BST)
Bursaries (again)
Hello everyone. I have been reading the notices with interest. DOES ANYONE KNOW THAT UNISON ARE TRYING TO HELP US??? They have seven good reasons as to why we should all be getting better pay, and you want to read about these go to http://pages.about.com/catherineturner/2.html and see what you think.
Catherine <catherine1jod31@hotmail.com>
- Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 18:34:03 (BST)
Hello everyone. I have been reading the notices with interest. DOES ANYONE KNOW THAT UNISON ARE TRYING TO HELP US??? They have seven good reasons as to why we should all be getting better pay, and you want to read about these go to http://pages.about.com/catherineturner/2.html and see what you think.
Catherine <catherine1jod31@hotmail.com>
- Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 18:34:03 (BST)
Shall I or shan't
I?
I am a 28 year graduate who has been working for the last 5 years. For as long as I can remember I have considered nursing, but have always been discouraged. Has anyone been in the same situation and is glad they made 'the jump'? Any suggestions as to how I find out whether I'll really like it?! I'd love to hear from you.
Sally Tillett <sallytillett@hotmail.com>
- Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 16:39:10 (BST)
I am a 28 year graduate who has been working for the last 5 years. For as long as I can remember I have considered nursing, but have always been discouraged. Has anyone been in the same situation and is glad they made 'the jump'? Any suggestions as to how I find out whether I'll really like it?! I'd love to hear from you.
Sally Tillett <sallytillett@hotmail.com>
- Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 16:39:10 (BST)
Benefits
I am a single mother who has always worked to keep my 16 year old and 5 year old, but I also have to claim Working Family Tax Credit. When I start my training in June I will still have to work over 16 hours a week to get the benefit because the bursary does not count as work related earnings - BUT - when I re-claim WFTC in December my bursary will then be classed as earnings alongside my wages from work, I will probably not get Housing Benefit then either, so basically we single mums are no better off than anyone else who is training. Basically I will be studying, training and working, whilst trying to look after my children, hopefully with help from my family and friends. Financially I will be worse off than I am now.
Anita <anita.keal@ic24.net>
- Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 15:33:18 (BST)
I am a single mother who has always worked to keep my 16 year old and 5 year old, but I also have to claim Working Family Tax Credit. When I start my training in June I will still have to work over 16 hours a week to get the benefit because the bursary does not count as work related earnings - BUT - when I re-claim WFTC in December my bursary will then be classed as earnings alongside my wages from work, I will probably not get Housing Benefit then either, so basically we single mums are no better off than anyone else who is training. Basically I will be studying, training and working, whilst trying to look after my children, hopefully with help from my family and friends. Financially I will be worse off than I am now.
Anita <anita.keal@ic24.net>
- Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 15:33:18 (BST)
Nursing or Midwifery
students with disabilities
I am a Senior Lecturer in School of Nursing & Midwifery; I also act as a Special Needs Co-ordinator for students in this school who have any disabilities or special needs. I am trying to undertake some research regarding the needs of such students and/or the problems they have encountered during their training. If you would be willing to help I would be very grateful if you could e-mail me directly. Many thanks.
Pauline Lim <p.lim@wlv.ac.uk>
- Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 14:29:27 (BST)
I am a Senior Lecturer in School of Nursing & Midwifery; I also act as a Special Needs Co-ordinator for students in this school who have any disabilities or special needs. I am trying to undertake some research regarding the needs of such students and/or the problems they have encountered during their training. If you would be willing to help I would be very grateful if you could e-mail me directly. Many thanks.
Pauline Lim <p.lim@wlv.ac.uk>
- Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 14:29:27 (BST)
Hi Donna, I'd just like
to say that I am in exactly the same boat as you. I have two small children
aged 2 and 4, my husband works all the hours God sends and still only takes
home £130 per week, but this is not deemed enough to qualify for the top level
of allowances in the bursary system. Swansea University where I'm due to start
in October this year have been as helpful as possible but can't really offer
much. I was told to try to apply for a Career Development Loan, apparently
Barclays do them, but I can't apply until I've actually started training.
Great, what happens if they turn me down, I'd be unable to continue funding
my training and out of a job!! I did get in touch with a rep from Unison whose
name I was given from these pages, but they haven't even replied!! What can
we do? I really want to try to do something, but I don't know what. Perhaps
if we all join together, we can make a change although I seriously doubt it.
I'd love to know everyone's comments. Heather.
Heather <heathermcguinness@yahoo.com>
- Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 13:16:28 (BST)
Heather <heathermcguinness@yahoo.com>
- Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 13:16:28 (BST)
Bursaries
In reply to your note Donna, did you know that if you were a single parent on a bursary as a student nurse, you would not be entitled to any benefits? You would still be able to receive your child benefits, but as for income support or whatever, well you would not get it. I doubt you would even get any help with paying your rent!!! When you really get down to things and discuss student nurse bursaries and their lifestyles, we really are struggling to make ends meet - even those of us who are married with working husbands! So, what can we do about this? Well, today I have posted a letter to William Haig who is my local MP, informing him that I support UNISON in their campaign to get student nurses a decent wage. If we all stand up for ourselves may be we will get something done. If anyone wants to know any more about the UNISON campaign (I am a member not a representative of UNISON), get in touch and I will point you in the right direction, or at least I will try to.
Catherine <catherine1jod31@hotmail.com>
- Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 09:18:59 (BST)
In reply to your note Donna, did you know that if you were a single parent on a bursary as a student nurse, you would not be entitled to any benefits? You would still be able to receive your child benefits, but as for income support or whatever, well you would not get it. I doubt you would even get any help with paying your rent!!! When you really get down to things and discuss student nurse bursaries and their lifestyles, we really are struggling to make ends meet - even those of us who are married with working husbands! So, what can we do about this? Well, today I have posted a letter to William Haig who is my local MP, informing him that I support UNISON in their campaign to get student nurses a decent wage. If we all stand up for ourselves may be we will get something done. If anyone wants to know any more about the UNISON campaign (I am a member not a representative of UNISON), get in touch and I will point you in the right direction, or at least I will try to.
Catherine <catherine1jod31@hotmail.com>
- Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 09:18:59 (BST)
Raw deal for
married students with children.
Hi my name is Donna and I am about to start training (adult branch) in Oct. 2000. This is not a message against single parents - it is against those in the Government who assume too much. Pityful bursaries aside, am I the only person who feels that just because your spouse/partner earns a modest wage, and works very hard for even that much, that childcare allowance (pityful again), is denied? With everybody being so P.C. about single mothers it seems that it is a crime to say that married mother's families are actually worse off. If I were a single mother (and i have been)about to start training then not only would I receive childcare allowance, I would be able to claim housing benefit and council tax benenfit also. Now, i realize that we can claim a quarter off our current council tax bill, but even with the amount outstanding it is still less than our current utility bill. When I start training, we will lose £243 pounds per month from our current earnings when i give-up my job, and it is this which pays for childrens clothing etc. With 2 chidren my ENTIRE bursary is paying for childcare! If my husband is then viewed in the same way that a single mother views the state, i.e.: he pays for my rent/mortgage, my council tax etc. (and believe me, after that, there is nothing left) then it only takes simple mathematics to work out that we will actually be worse-off than those in reciept of childcare allowance. My wage loss of about £3000 per year, is also the amount of residual income that the grants people say has to be left from my husbands income, after deductions. Unfortuneately, it doesn't seem that their 'reductions' appear to have anything in common with reality. I seem to be getting the unenviable feeling that i've bitten off more than i can chew. If there are any other students in the same boat, I would really welcome the support. No hate-mail from single parents please, I just feel that married mothers have their say - for once in a VERY long time. Donna.
Donna <d-carey@cwcom.net>
- Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 03:17:09 (BST)
Hi my name is Donna and I am about to start training (adult branch) in Oct. 2000. This is not a message against single parents - it is against those in the Government who assume too much. Pityful bursaries aside, am I the only person who feels that just because your spouse/partner earns a modest wage, and works very hard for even that much, that childcare allowance (pityful again), is denied? With everybody being so P.C. about single mothers it seems that it is a crime to say that married mother's families are actually worse off. If I were a single mother (and i have been)about to start training then not only would I receive childcare allowance, I would be able to claim housing benefit and council tax benenfit also. Now, i realize that we can claim a quarter off our current council tax bill, but even with the amount outstanding it is still less than our current utility bill. When I start training, we will lose £243 pounds per month from our current earnings when i give-up my job, and it is this which pays for childrens clothing etc. With 2 chidren my ENTIRE bursary is paying for childcare! If my husband is then viewed in the same way that a single mother views the state, i.e.: he pays for my rent/mortgage, my council tax etc. (and believe me, after that, there is nothing left) then it only takes simple mathematics to work out that we will actually be worse-off than those in reciept of childcare allowance. My wage loss of about £3000 per year, is also the amount of residual income that the grants people say has to be left from my husbands income, after deductions. Unfortuneately, it doesn't seem that their 'reductions' appear to have anything in common with reality. I seem to be getting the unenviable feeling that i've bitten off more than i can chew. If there are any other students in the same boat, I would really welcome the support. No hate-mail from single parents please, I just feel that married mothers have their say - for once in a VERY long time. Donna.
Donna <d-carey@cwcom.net>
- Thursday, May 11, 2000 at 03:17:09 (BST)
TAX
Another word on tax. As we understand it, if the only work you do is in your uni/college holidays then you do not have to pay tax until you reach the personal allowance threshold. However if you want to work at any time, ie. weekends etc then the tax office taxes you at basic rate for all your work. You can then claim this back at the end of each tax year. This way means you pay more tax initially but can work whenever you like. Good Luck to you all, and don't work too hard!
Sara James <sara.james@thornbury-nursing-services.co.uk>
- Wednesday, May 10, 2000 at 14:48:22 (BST)
Another word on tax. As we understand it, if the only work you do is in your uni/college holidays then you do not have to pay tax until you reach the personal allowance threshold. However if you want to work at any time, ie. weekends etc then the tax office taxes you at basic rate for all your work. You can then claim this back at the end of each tax year. This way means you pay more tax initially but can work whenever you like. Good Luck to you all, and don't work too hard!
Sara James <sara.james@thornbury-nursing-services.co.uk>
- Wednesday, May 10, 2000 at 14:48:22 (BST)
HELLO ALL NURSING
STUDENTS
I JUST WANT TO SAY TO ALL NURSING STUDENTS, STICK IN THERE. I FINNISH IN AUGUST (25TH TO BE EXACT) AND ALTHOUGHT ITS BEEN HARD,IE MONEY STUDY AND WORK, IT HAS BEEN FUN. I HAVE MET SOME GREAT FRIENDS, WHICH IS ALSO IMPORTANT. SO PLEASE STICK IN IT WILL ALL BE WORTH IT IN THE END
MORAG <M.BRISTON@DUNDEE.AC.UK>
- Wednesday, May 10, 2000 at 10:11:34 (BST)
I JUST WANT TO SAY TO ALL NURSING STUDENTS, STICK IN THERE. I FINNISH IN AUGUST (25TH TO BE EXACT) AND ALTHOUGHT ITS BEEN HARD,IE MONEY STUDY AND WORK, IT HAS BEEN FUN. I HAVE MET SOME GREAT FRIENDS, WHICH IS ALSO IMPORTANT. SO PLEASE STICK IN IT WILL ALL BE WORTH IT IN THE END
MORAG <M.BRISTON@DUNDEE.AC.UK>
- Wednesday, May 10, 2000 at 10:11:34 (BST)
Student Bursaries
The thing that really gets my goat is that when you break down the bursary into how many hours we are on placement and in uni you find we are on approx £1.50 an hour. If we were doing any other job as an apprentice which is basically what we are we would be on a minimum of £3.60 per hour!! Sucks doesn't it.
Emma <hk463063@execmail.com>
- Tuesday, May 09, 2000 at 16:32:13 (BST)
The thing that really gets my goat is that when you break down the bursary into how many hours we are on placement and in uni you find we are on approx £1.50 an hour. If we were doing any other job as an apprentice which is basically what we are we would be on a minimum of £3.60 per hour!! Sucks doesn't it.
Emma <hk463063@execmail.com>
- Tuesday, May 09, 2000 at 16:32:13 (BST)
Hello student
nurses
I know, I know its hard goin, but we must love it to keep goin! Im in my 3rd year and take my finals in september. I cant wait to qualify, im sick of having no money and being treated like something thats been stepped in ,off the pavement! However I keep telling myself it will be worth it in the end. Does anyone know of any decent chat rooms for nurses? All the ones that i enter are always empty!
Sarah <sarahandkev@supanet.com>
- Saturday, May 06, 2000 at 01:00:04 (BST)
I know, I know its hard goin, but we must love it to keep goin! Im in my 3rd year and take my finals in september. I cant wait to qualify, im sick of having no money and being treated like something thats been stepped in ,off the pavement! However I keep telling myself it will be worth it in the end. Does anyone know of any decent chat rooms for nurses? All the ones that i enter are always empty!
Sarah <sarahandkev@supanet.com>
- Saturday, May 06, 2000 at 01:00:04 (BST)
CHRISTINE HANCOCK
OPENS NEW RESOURCE CENTRE
Nigel <webmaster@thornbury-nursing-services.co.uk>
- Friday, May 05, 2000 at 20:53:47 (BST)
| Christine Hancock General Secretary of the RCN, today officially opened the first RCN Resource Centre in Bristol, being hosted by Thornbury Nursing Services at their Bristol HQ. Ms. Hancock gave an enthusiastic endorsement of the collaboration between the independent nursing agency sector and the RCN. She praised the quality of the effort and resources provided by Thornbury Nursing Services for visiting and local RCN members, and supported their work in providing realistic pay levels for professional hard-pressed nurses. She confirmed that good independent nursing agencies have a crucial role to play in supporting the NHS and in helping the RCN drive through some of it's own objectives. She was also impressed by the technological innovations on display at Thornbury's call-centre, especially the increasing inclusion of the Internet in the day-to-day management of hospital needs and nurses availabilities. |  |
- Friday, May 05, 2000 at 20:53:47 (BST)
Uni of Central
Lancs
Hi, my name is Angela. I have completed 18mths of my training at Sheffield University and am transferring to Preston in August. I would be interested to hear from anyone who is currently or expected to be enrolled at Preston for the nursing diploma course!
Angela <ange.bell@ntlworld.com>
- Thursday, May 04, 2000 at 21:36:40 (BST)
Hi, my name is Angela. I have completed 18mths of my training at Sheffield University and am transferring to Preston in August. I would be interested to hear from anyone who is currently or expected to be enrolled at Preston for the nursing diploma course!
Angela <ange.bell@ntlworld.com>
- Thursday, May 04, 2000 at 21:36:40 (BST)
Fitting it all
in
I am a 2nd year student at Mancheser University For those who are just starting a few thughts, the workload can be heavy going at times, but the placements make it all worthwhile. I have been very lucky to be placed in a great group which offers support, i have made many great friendships and there help helped me in tackling problems I might come up against. So use your fellow colleagues to help you review your ideas or strategies regarding workload. GOODLUCK TO YOU ALL OUT THERE.
ALISON <cheezy.rider@cwcom.net>
- Thursday, May 04, 2000 at 20:39:54 (BST)
I am a 2nd year student at Mancheser University For those who are just starting a few thughts, the workload can be heavy going at times, but the placements make it all worthwhile. I have been very lucky to be placed in a great group which offers support, i have made many great friendships and there help helped me in tackling problems I might come up against. So use your fellow colleagues to help you review your ideas or strategies regarding workload. GOODLUCK TO YOU ALL OUT THERE.
ALISON <cheezy.rider@cwcom.net>
- Thursday, May 04, 2000 at 20:39:54 (BST)
Levels of Bursary
Allowance
Hi, my name is Heather and I'm 28. I'm due to start my diploma course in October 2000 in Swansea. I would love to hear from anyone who is going to Swansea around the same time or anyone else starting in October. I've read all the comments on here regarding the trivial amount of bursary that students are given and just wondered if anyone had found ways of bumping up their income with any benefits etc. Thanks for reading this.
Heather <Jaluhele@aol.com>
- Thursday, May 04, 2000 at 14:51:20 (BST)
Hi, my name is Heather and I'm 28. I'm due to start my diploma course in October 2000 in Swansea. I would love to hear from anyone who is going to Swansea around the same time or anyone else starting in October. I've read all the comments on here regarding the trivial amount of bursary that students are given and just wondered if anyone had found ways of bumping up their income with any benefits etc. Thanks for reading this.
Heather <Jaluhele@aol.com>
- Thursday, May 04, 2000 at 14:51:20 (BST)
Christine Hancock
comes to Thornbury!!
The RCN General Secretary will on Friday of this week visit Thornbury House to officially open the RCN South West Resource Centre. Send in your questions to put to her! We will put the best question to her during her visit and send £25 to the proposer of the best question. Start sending!!
Webmaster <webmaster@brutish-nursing.com>
- Wednesday, May 03, 2000 at 09:50:19 (BST)
The RCN General Secretary will on Friday of this week visit Thornbury House to officially open the RCN South West Resource Centre. Send in your questions to put to her! We will put the best question to her during her visit and send £25 to the proposer of the best question. Start sending!!
Webmaster <webmaster@brutish-nursing.com>
- Wednesday, May 03, 2000 at 09:50:19 (BST)