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Hi All
Hi, I'm Paul a 2nd Year Student Nurse from the University of Brighton. I thought I would just send a message to say Hello, and I hope everyone is coping in their studies. Cheers Paul
 Paul Relf <p_relf@yahoo.com>
- Friday, March 31, 2000 at 20:25:21 (BST)
Good Luck
Good Luck Claire.........I'm sure you wont need it though. Keep us informed of your trails and tribulations.
 Shaz
- Friday, March 31, 2000 at 12:27:01 (BST)
Calling male child branch students!!!!
Hi i'm a male child branch degree student nurse at Southampton and would like to get in contact with other male child branch nurses, to have a general chat about the issues we face(usually being ganged up on!!!)So if you want to let me know that i'm not the only guy doing child branch in this country then e-mail me!!!!!please
Dominic McCutcheon <drm199@soton.ac.uk>
- Friday, March 31, 2000 at 11:34:44 (BST)
HI
HI im a first time visitor to this site and think its really good, im a first yr BN student at southampton uni. The course here is good you get put on the wards really early on and you learn loads, im on paediatric branch and cant wait to finish CFP. However my computer wont let me acess your free book so if someone could send on email and enlighten me it would be appreciated. Have fun and enjoy
 Rachel Clark <rjcr199@soton.ac.uk>
- Friday, March 31, 2000 at 11:31:55 (BST)
I am no longer an outsider!!!!
Hi all, just thought I would let you all know (cause I cant stop telling the world), I got accepted to King's College for the 2 year graduate diploma! I cant believe it, although it does seem a little scarey that we are on the wards within three weeks of starting! Waiting for July :-))))
Claire <ClaireMacL@aol.com>
- Friday, March 31, 2000 at 02:51:38 (BST)
student nurse or gofer.
Is it just me or does anyone else out there as a student get put on constantly as a bloody gofer. I am a Yr 2 student and as of yet have only had 3 weeks experience in a hospital. I realised something was'nt quite right (maybe personal/ maybe not) when the F-grade askde me to give the evening drinks out to Pts while the support carer helped her with dressing. Anybody else experienced anything like this.
 jo <barry@joanne 22.freeserve.uk>
- Thursday, March 30, 2000 at 23:08:04 (BST)
Oops
Forgot to say, I hear in the post in the next week or so if I was successful - another week of hating the postwoman :-)
 Claire <ClaireMacL@aol.com>
- Wednesday, March 29, 2000 at 02:51:27 (BST)
Re: Interview at Kings
Thanks for asking Debbie (even though I know its for personal gain) ;-) Well, most of it was an information session, basically setting people straight about what the courses involve and dispelling any myths etc. About half way through, the people applying for the graduate course (only three of us) were separated from the rest of the group and we were told about the differences our course has as opposed to the 3 year (eg intensity of workload for first 6 months or so) and given a chance to discuss a topic to prove our conversational skills, ooh and there was a short essay. Some people, from what I could tell, about four out of the eighteen total were asked to talk to lecturers... though all of these were people with unusual qualifications. Basically, it wasnt an interview, it was checking of documents and introductions! Hope this helps, if you want more detail, email me!
 Claire <ClaireMacL@aol.com>
- Wednesday, March 29, 2000 at 02:50:32 (BST)
Interview
Claire, How did your interview go yesterday?
 Debbie
- Tuesday, March 28, 2000 at 12:46:01 (BST)
Learn or Review Interpretation of Arterial Blood Gases
: : The normal range for CO2 in an : Arterial Blood Gas is 35-45(mmHg) AND within 35 to : 45 minutes I can teach you to understand & interpret : ABG's.I have put together a 3 Step Method; it is : the best & easiest way to understand & interpret : ABG's. visit my website at: : http://homepages.go.com/~abghelp/abg.html or E-mail me at : abghelp@mailcity.com for more : information .
David <abghelp@mailcity.com>
- Monday, March 27, 2000 at 18:14:14 (BST)
Nurses in Theatre
I read with interest the notice posted by 'Alikyle', re theatre nursing. Most student nurses these days dont get the opportunity to be placed in theatres, which is in my opinion a great shame. Theatres is not everyones career choice, and most Student Nurses dislike their placements in theatre, but you cannot dismiss the wealth of knowledge you gain whilst you are there, from care of the unconscious patient to anatomy and physiology, passing infection control on the way. What other placement allows you the opportunity to see a patients brain or heart laid out in all its glory and a vast array of experts on hand to teach! Most Nurses choose Theatre for lots of different reasons and very few 'end up there', as a second choice. Its a unique clinical area in which to work, things change by the second and you have to be quick minded, flexible, and know your stuff, as you are expected to think on your feet, and you can guarantee someone will put that to the test several times a day. To have a sense of humour is above all else the most important factor to being able to adapt to the way we work in Theatres. To all students who have an interest in Theare Nursing, my advice is to give it ago, cus you 'cant knock it till you've tried it'!
Lorraine <lorraine.poore@thornbury-nursing-services.com>
- Monday, March 27, 2000 at 15:57:58 (BST)
A Brand-New Nursing Site
We Would be greatful if everyone reading this would check out our New Site and give us your comments and suggestions. There`s still a lot to do but it`s coming on and with your help we can make it a great site. Please be suppotive and hopefully we`ll meet you at the Nurses Station (Chat-Room). I know things will be a little slow to start with but hopefully as the wsord spreads so will the support. Thank-you for taking the time to read this, Now just follow the Link: http://ajames.karoo.net
CyberNurse <cybernurse@ajames.karoo.co.uk>
- Sunday, March 26, 2000 at 17:23:35 (BST)
re:bursaries
On the 29th March '00 Unison are going to parlament to ask the secretary of state for health questions on this exact subject, they have rallied the support of nursing students all over the country as they believe that this will have a greater impact. I don't know how much effect it will have but fingers crossed eh. (Just contact your local rep. for details I guess)
Lee <lnorthway@plymouth.ac.uk>
- Friday, March 24, 2000 at 11:53:03 (GMT)
bursaries
While I am here... Nursing Times have an article this week stating that the Scottish Unison union have kicked off a campaign for nursing students to be paid a realistic salary/bursary of £10,000... are there any student reps here or anyone who knows about the various unions - is anyone backing up this campaign? Their argument, quite rightly, is that students should be surplus to ward requirements, however, they are treated as a 'staff member'... therefore, as the argument has gone on for years, should be paid a bursary more realistic with regard to the salaried staff pay. Anyone got any comments?
 claire <clairemacl@aol.com>
- Friday, March 24, 2000 at 01:00:23 (GMT)
sleeping?
Just wondering how often everyone is using this newsgroup, i check it most days and noone else is replying - i have said it before, but, come on everyone, this can be an excellent source of information, if we all use it!
 claire <clairemacl@aol.com>
- Friday, March 24, 2000 at 00:45:56 (GMT)
Great New Site!!
Our school is a Grammar School of 800 girls. We thought we would get in contact with you to express how much we are impressed with the site in general, from the graphics, ease of use, links, etc. For our girls who have decided on a career in Nursing, or still undecided this is looking like a very resourceful site, and hope that long may it continue.
 Coleraine High School <chs@colerainehighsch.schoolzone.co.uk>
- Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 14:01:32 (GMT)
The "NHS" Budget: What are your views!!
What do you think of Mr Browns Budget?
Are all the said things, and new money going to materialise? What about the 10,000 new nurses he plans on getting! Tell us if YOU think the NHS and yourself will benefit from it.
Mean what you say, and say it mean!
Webmaster <webmaster@brutish-nursing.com>
- Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 11:20:26 (GMT)
Katherine
Hi, you might want to check this link http://www.nmas.ac.uk/index.html (which is the application body for diploma's web site). I know funding is available for foreign students, so this should be a good start... or this: http://www.ukcc.org.uk/ which is the central register for uk nurses. Hope this helps. Email me if the links dont work or any questions.
Claire <ClaireMacL@aol.com>
- Tuesday, March 21, 2000 at 02:02:47 (GMT)
Nurses in the Operating Theatre
I am interested in finding out if there are any other student nurses out there that might what to end up working as an operating theatre nurse? and what about post registration education? Also what do you think about nurses working in operating theatres?
 AliKyle <AliKyle@aol.com>
- Sunday, March 19, 2000 at 11:35:53 (GMT)
Nursing Studies in Britain
Hi, I am looking for information on how to go about becoming a nursing student in Britain, the waiting period (if any), scholarships/grants/bursaries available to students, and any foreign student restrictions. I am an LPN student in Canada and wish to pursue an RGN in Britain. Thanks.
 Daisy May <katharinaschu55@hotmail.com>
- Sunday, March 19, 2000 at 05:02:15 (GMT)
It's back....
Hey everyone, check out the RCN student web site - the student pages are back and there to exchange information, discuss issues and rant & rave. www.rcn.org.uk Now, there are two great student discussion forums once more....
 Andrew Garland <andrew.garland@zoom.co.uk>
- Saturday, March 18, 2000 at 20:47:18 (GMT)
Loralea_24@hotmail.com
Sorry can't help with latest pay scales as not sure what an LPN is. Curious to why you would want to come to England, I'm considering relocating to Canada - any advice would be welcome!
 Tracy <tracy.1006@virginnet.co.uk>
- Saturday, March 18, 2000 at 15:20:19 (GMT)
WELL DONE
Brilliant new banner!
 John
- Saturday, March 18, 2000 at 06:40:26 (GMT)
Toronto
Tubbs mate, the most important thing to remember whilst in Toronto, is that when you buy a beer ( if you can afford one) always leave a tip for the bar person, or they just wont serve you again for the rest of the evening, no matter what you do to attract there attention. Enjoy Canada its a great place, and dont be to disappointed by the surroundings to Niagra falls!!!!
 Ticks
- Friday, March 17, 2000 at 15:47:53 (GMT)
Interview
Debbie, I will let you know a week from Monday what the interview is like, I got confirmation from Kings College re:CFP two year graduate course (I am going to do Adult - but at Kings you dont make up your mind right away, even in the graduate course). From the literature, although I am not entirely sure if this is the complete selection process, I dont think there is anything to be really worried about, anyhow, I shall let you know!
 Claire <ClaireMacL@aol.com>
- Friday, March 17, 2000 at 01:17:03 (GMT)
Ermmm
How long's this been here? I'm supposed to be working on my assignment....I've got a bit sidetracked. Anyway I'm currently in the last 6 months of a 3 year nursing diploma & I've managed to arrange my elective placement in Toronto, Canada. Does anyone have any hints/tips on the area that might be useful?
 Tubbs <nursie@mdunwell.fsnet.co.uk>
- Thursday, March 16, 2000 at 21:05:44 (GMT)
Interviews
Im starting to apply for the two year graduate childrens nursing course and i was wondering if anyone has any tips on what the interviews are like ?
 Debbie
- Thursday, March 16, 2000 at 20:27:36 (GMT)
16th March - Top Story!! - No more gifts!! - Your views?
NURSE WAS SACKED OVER "PSYCHO" T-SHIRT
A nurse at Ashworth Special Hospital, England, was sacked after giving a sex offender a T-shirt with "Alcatraz Psycho Ward Out-Patient" an employment tribunial was told yesterday. The nurse, 43, gave her birthday gift while the patient, identified as "Geoffrey W", was on a day trip to Southport, Merseyside. The nurse, who had worked at the hospital for 21 years, was dismissed for gross misconduct.
 Webmaster <webmaster@brutish-nursing.com>
- Thursday, March 16, 2000 at 15:42:42 (GMT)
15th March - Top Story!! - Your views please
HUMAN ORGAN FARM ON WAY
Cloned pigs could provide organs for transplants into humans on the NHS within six years, it emerged yesterday. The breakthrough follows the first successful cloning of five pigs using the same techniques which created Dolly the sheep. But the announcement immediately provoked widespread controversy over the ethics of cloning. Supporters claimed the development would end the worldwide organs shortage.
Greg <webmaster@brutish-nursing.com>
- Wednesday, March 15, 2000 at 16:26:12 (GMT)
Re: American Student
Edith, there are two routes to gaining nursing registration in Britain, the diploma and degree... the degree is (obviously) slightly more biased to the academic side and takes four years to complete rather than three for diploma - with the diploma, there is also the two years Graduate entry which I am probably going to choose once I have my final offers in... oh and one final point, the diploma offers a £5000 (£6000 to mature students in London) bursary, whereas the degree is either self-funded or funded by re-payable loans. Hope this helps you. Email me if you dont understand anything, I wrote this quickly!!!
 Claire <ClaireMacL@aol.com>
- Wednesday, March 15, 2000 at 02:08:05 (GMT)
American Student
Hi I'm a student in the USA and I wanted to know if a Diploma(uk) is the same as Bachelors Degree or B.S (usa)or what is it? If some body knows please feel free to answer me or email me. I'm planing to move to there at the end of the year and i'm going to go to nursing school. I already have 64 credits on general studies and science. I will appreciate any comment.
 Edith <edith@registerednurses.com>
- Tuesday, March 14, 2000 at 22:28:14 (GMT)
Placement travel costs
After a few days of panic, regarding changes to the travel cost arrangements. I've just discovered from that the London region are going to continue paying up, for the foreseeable future. Commiserations to the rest of the country.
 SLATS <p.slator@cwcom.net>
- Tuesday, March 14, 2000 at 20:31:39 (GMT)
Re: My Previous Rant ;-)
Hi all, just wanted to thank the people who emailed me after my attack ;-) It's nice to know there are people out there that feel the same...or ones who don't but can still understand. I agree with what Lee said..it maybe isn't the norm..but why I agree is I recall a time when I was on placement on a 20 bedded medical ward. The Sister was working that day..in the office...there was one nurse on..me..and a first year student. I wouldn't have minded had someone phoned in sick and that happened...but that was the amount of staff they decided was necessary...not one aux on that day. Just is kinda hard to learn when you are expected to be the one who knows. I ended up teaching the first year student..not that I really knew enough to be doing so. Anyway...I'll not moan any more hehe it kinda wears thin after a while ;-) Thanx all :)
 Casbah <casbah@btinternet.com>
- Sunday, March 12, 2000 at 05:49:59 (GMT)
10th March - Top Story - What do YOU think!!
UNION SAYS STUDENT NURSES NEED £10,000 PAY
Call for return to waged status to stop so many quitting before they qualify.
Student nurses must be paid up to £10,000 a year if the government is to stop them quitting, the leading public sector union claimed yesterday. Unison leaders said the salaries, which would be double the current nursing bursary, would free students from "poverty wages" and help to stem the recruitment crisis. The union issued its demand a week after the Scottish Executive revealed that one in four student nurses who start training never complete their courses. However, the Royal College of Nurses dismissed the Unison campaign as outdated.
News extract from The Scotsman (www.scotsman.com)
For more Nursing News, check out British Nursing News Online.
 Webmaster <webmaster@brutish-nursing.com>
- Friday, March 10, 2000 at 09:53:51 (GMT)

UK Pay Rates for Nurses
The latest pay information for nurses can be found at www.nursing-pay.com

Nigel <webmaster@thornbury-nursing-services.co.uk>
- Friday, March 10, 2000 at 09:43:14 (GMT)

Canada
Help!! My husband and I will be moving to London in a few years, and I would like to know what the rate of pay is for LPN's and RN's. I have searched the internet with no results. If you can help me out, please write to: Loralea_24@hotmail.com. Thanks!
 Loralea <Loralea_24@hotmail.com>
- Friday, March 10, 2000 at 04:02:50 (GMT)
Bursary changes
The system being introduced sounds alot like the system used in the old grant system for Scottish students studying in other countries (in my case England), we got paid any expences more than £3 per day to uni and expences to and from home three times a year... it was great for me while doing my degree cause it was one up on everyone else, however, I dont think I could manage it these days on allowances like that, London is so expensive and placements are not always close to home.
 Claire <ClaireMacL@aol.com>
- Friday, March 10, 2000 at 02:27:28 (GMT)
Bursary Changes Coming Your Way
Hi everyone, I have some news that all students in England who receive NHS Bursary will be interested in. News has reached the ears of the RCN/ANS that there are changes on the way, as far as we are aware this is expected to be from April. The changes are in relation to clinical placement travel costs. Since September 1999 all students have been entitled to claim back full travel expenses for clinical placements. Now however things are changing. The following examples are being used to explain things, Term time residence to college = £3.00 per day Term time residence to placement = £2.50 per day NO CLAIM Term time residence to college = £3.00 Term time residence to placement = £7.50 STUDENT CLAIMS £7.50 Term time residence to college = £3.00 Term time residence to placement = £3.00 NO CLAIM The Student Grants Unit has a contact number for enquiries concerning clinical placement costs - 01253 338 723 or 01253 338 723 These changes are going to lead to difficulties for a large number of students & the ANS is actively working on the issue but now it is over to you. If these changes are going to lead to problems for you let people know, the RCN/ANS, MP's, NHSE. Every letter counts, can you imagine the reaction if every nursing & midwifery student wrote to Tony Blair? Put pen to paper! If you need any more info please get in touch. Cherry Stephenson RCN Association of Nursing Students Executive Member - North of England
Cherry <cherry.stephenson@rcn.org.uk>
- Tuesday, March 07, 2000 at 11:00:45 (GMT)
7th March - Main story!! - Your views please.
Lecturers begin 17-week action
Up to 1500 Scottish university lecturers are expected to go on strike today in a dispute between the Educational Institute for Scotland and the management of the new post-1992 universities and higher education institutions over a new employment contract. The action - two days a week for the next 17 weeks - is likely to have the greatest impact on Glasgow Caledonian University, Napier University, Queen Margaret University College, Paisley University and Robert Gordon University.
 Webmaster <webmaster@brutish-nursing.com>
- Tuesday, March 07, 2000 at 09:55:07 (GMT)
Mature and fed up
As a student rep I have a meeting with the head of cohort on Tuesday and a meeting with the Dean on 17/03 to discuss how we can make it easier for mature students with dependents. My suggestion is that we have study guides/objectives of each lesson so that if you have to miss a lecture it is easy to follow through and it could be easily checked by lecturers. I am a mature student and I am finding it hard - I would like to make it easier for those that are coming into nursing. Please send me any comments or ideas, especially if your college cater for the mature student. I will try to answer all emails. I need this info before Tuesday. Luv Net
 netnet <netnet19@freeuk.com>
- Sunday, March 05, 2000 at 23:31:03 (GMT)
Warty
Thanks Worty John, hey, we have all made spelling mistakes in the dead of night haven't we :-) I did spell it correctly during the search though! Nice to know more people are reading this site though... See ya!
 Claire <ClaireMacL@aol.com>
- Sunday, March 05, 2000 at 04:37:23 (GMT)
4th March Story -- Any one else fancy trying this!!
£1/2M BOOST FOR NURSE WHO WED MAN OF 90
A Nurse has inherited a £500,000 fortune after marrying a rich pensioner to beat the taxman. The man, 90, knew he was dying of cancer when he wed the 42-year-old nurse three months ago. But the retired businessman, who lost his battle this week, did not want the Government to get the £150,000 inheritance tax if he died unmarried. "I don't know what I am going to do with the money," the twice divorced woman said yesterday. "My daughter and I are going to live in this house for about a year and we may stay longer if it feels right."
Webmaster <webmaster@brutish-nursing.com>
- Saturday, March 04, 2000 at 11:10:14 (GMT)
St John's Wart
Claire, I bet you couldn't find St John's Wart because the spelling is actually Wort not Wart......
 Warty John
- Saturday, March 04, 2000 at 07:38:36 (GMT)
Re: St Johns Wart
Kate, I had a search though The Lancet and various other medical journals online and found no warnings on St Johns Wart (I find this a little strange), will keep you updated if I find anything. As for the NHS, I think everyone, students included, have an opinion on it, but the question is a bit broad and I don't know what the Australian situation is... sorry I couldnt help - for now!!! Claire
 Claire <ClaireMacL@aol.com>
- Friday, March 03, 2000 at 23:11:49 (GMT)
St John's Wort
Does anyone know where I could get some info about the warnings given to GPs in the UK. Also are there ANY students out there AT ALL who have any VIEWS regarding the NHS in Britain? Is Australia right to follow your example?
Kate Holleran <holleran@dcsi.net.au>
- Friday, March 03, 2000 at 05:25:32 (GMT)
2nd March - Top Story!! Give us your views and opinions!!
St John's Wort warning for GPs --
The Independent reports that the Medicines Control Agency is writing to all GPs and pharmacists listing more than half a dozen drugs with which St John's Wort may interact with potentially dangerous results. But the agency stopped short of making the popular herbal remedy prescription-only, as Dublin did on January 1. Extract from The Independent (www.independent.co.uk) For more Nursing and health news check out British Nursing News Online at www.bnn-online.co.uk
 Webmaster <webmaster@brutish-nursing.com>
- Thursday, March 02, 2000 at 16:01:13 (GMT)
1st March - Top Story!!
BLAIR UNVEILS HIS FIVE-POINT PLAN TO END NHS "LOTTERY" -- The Prime Minister went on the offensive over the National Health Service yesterday with a pledge to end the "lottery" of health care. Unveiling a five-point plan to cut waiting lists and improve casualty wards, Tony Blair told health managers to embrace change or face the sack. He also said that the Government had no ideological objection to NHS operations taking place in private hospitals if it would cut waiting times. The plans come from the Department of Health's accident and emergency modernisation team, which is due to report in the next few months. Under the changes, nurses will be given greater powers to treat patients at casualty departments. They will be allowed to request X-rays and blood tests, interpret results, give drugs and discharge patients. Mr Blair also promised to speed up treatment by separating minor ailments from serious injuries and illnessses. (News extract from The Daily Telegraph - www.telegraph.co.uk) For more nursing news check out "British Nursing News Online" at www.bnn-online.co.uk
Webmaster <webmaster@brutish-nursing.com>
- Wednesday, March 01, 2000 at 10:31:24 (GMT)
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