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Fiji Nurses oppose coup
This is the text of a note from the (now underground) Fijian Nurses Association which has been smuggled out of Fiji. Fiji is presently in the control of rebels who have staged a undemocratic coup, which has led to 27 hostages being taken in the Fiji Parliament, including a leading nursing union activists Lavenia Padarath for the last forty days by rebels. The Fiji nurses are most grateful for UNISON's support and concerns. Yes, indeed we all would like to see the immediate release of the 27 hostages held in the Fijian Parliament. You will by now know that the four female hostages were released last Sunday 25/6/00 and Lavinia Padarath, the former General Secretary of the Fiji Nursing Association was one of them. All the public sector unions are opposing the 20% pay cut the Fiji Public Service Commission is planning to impose with effect from 1/8/00. We are hopeful that this will not happen. Once again thank you for you for UNISON's support, please pass on our thanks to nurses in the UK who have supported us during this difficult time. Fiji Nurses Association
<m.m.walker@unison.co.uk>
- Friday, June 30, 2000 at 16:27:58 (BST)

1st week over!!!!
Hi everyone, well my first week as a nursing student is over and I think I am going to love my training! We spent the first 2 days at Chester College which was lovely, I wanted to stay there!! Then we went on site at Leighton and I love it there, Ok not many leisure facilities but it is more cosy somehow especially as we only have about 20 in the whole group, we've had a good laugh this week anyway and I'm looking forward to the next 2 years and 51 weeks!!!!!!
Anita <anita.keal@ic24.net>
- Friday, June 30, 2000 at 16:26:27 (BST)

Student nurse lament
Student nurses have the nerve to ask of us what they deserve in return for the care they give, they should earn enough to live a decent wage should be the right for those who tend the sick at night but those who work all day long get almost nothing, that must be wrong and those nurses who went before and teach us now, well they got more they ask us now how do we fare when all we live on is thin air if cost improvement is the aim why send money down the drain by training nurses who drop out because they can not live on nowt. We all demand good patient care and we all are well aware of how much good nurses give so pay them then enough to live. Written by Sue Cookman on a UNISON training wekend.


- Friday, June 30, 2000 at 16:04:44 (BST)

Medicals
Yeah heather - the medical is nothing to worry about - took bout 10 mins in my case and a good gossip with the practice nurse! Good Luck with the course. Regards Jo
jo lee <jo@kunchai.freeserve.co.uk>
- Thursday, June 29, 2000 at 21:25:44 (BST)

Medicals for Nurse Training
Yes Heather, I think everyone has to have a medical before they start their nurse training. It is nothing to worry about though!
Catherine <catherine1jod31@hotmail.com>
- Thursday, June 29, 2000 at 20:51:27 (BST)

Starting Training
Has anyone else had to undergo a medical at their chosen University before starting their training? Apparently I have to have one in July before starting my training in September. Just wondering really!
Heather <Leheluja@aol.com>
- Thursday, June 29, 2000 at 14:07:04 (BST)

Students say yes to salaries
See this weeks Nursing Times for the result of the widest ever survey of student opinions. The overwhelming majority of the 3,000 students who took part in the joint NT/UNISON survey support the campaign by UNISON for a return to employee status for student nurses and midwives. On Monday the secretary of state for health also agreed to launch a review of the bursary system. By the way, 18% of the September 99 cohort have dropped out at the University of Plymouth in just nine months. The sooner students get the deal they deserve the better.
Dominic Forristal <d.forristal@unison.co.uk>
- Wednesday, June 28, 2000 at 16:09:24 (BST)

Mid-term Exams
Any revision tips or exam technique ideas ?
Howard <Evanssenior@freeserve.co.uk>
- Wednesday, June 28, 2000 at 00:01:27 (BST)

Anyone interested in this?
Medical Officers Required: Coral Cay Conservation are a non-profit making charity who require volunteer unpaid Medical Officers to join scuba diving and terrestrial rainforest expeditions in The Philippines and Honduras, Central America. If you are a qualified nurse, doctor or paramedic who wishes to enjoy at least 3 months in an exotic and remote location practicing real hands on nursing and medical cover for volunteers and the local community, having a great time in the process and diving on some of the most spectacular coral reefs in the world, then contact us for more information, ring: Coral Cay Conservation on 0207 498 6248 and ask for Monty Halls (Operations Manager) or Julie O'Brien (Administration Manager). E-mail ccc@coralcay.demon.co.uk or mh@coralcay.org Website: www.coralcay.org
Stephen Evans <stephen.evans@thornbury-nursing-services.co.uk>
- Monday, June 26, 2000 at 13:25:54 (BST)

Career development loans
Has anyone any clues about these things? A friend of mine applied for and got one, as a nursing student, I've tried and been told it was a loophole, that's why student nurses were given them. But now that 'loophole' has been closed! An offical explanation would be nice, from the nice people that govern our country so well!?!?! !?!?!?!?!?!?!?! They do honest.
Nat <nat.nat@lineone.net>
- Friday, June 23, 2000 at 22:51:25 (BST)

Pedal Pulse - Paediatrics
Can anyone give me a definition of Pedal Pulse? My assessor asked me to go check this on a young patient today, but unfortunately due to a cast on her leg I was unable to. I also don't know where it is, and my assessor won't tell me - so I have to find out from books, only there is nothing about pedal pulse in any of them, and nothing on the internet! Any clues???
Catherine <catherine1jod31@hotmail.com>
- Friday, June 23, 2000 at 21:21:00 (BST)

Student status
Sorry to keep banging on abut this subject, but this student status thing is really getting ridiculous. at just after 5.15pm today I tried to use the computers at my University only to find them locked. On asking a member of staff - I was told it was due to the university closing for the summer as the majority of students had finished their courses/year - and it is not officially the end of term yet. Summer holidays can be a nightmare for student nurses the library is open shorter hours, the books can be borrowed from July until September and most of the facilities are closed. Student status is it worth it?
Anne-Marie Osborne <h9150376@hud.ac.uk>
- Friday, June 23, 2000 at 17:42:43 (BST)

Glastonbury
Anyone at this years Glastonbury festival 22-25th June should call in on the UNISON stall, About twenty Nursing Students will be working (for the charity Cuba Solidarity) at Glastonbury so pop in and say hi, you can also pick up a UNISON poncho to keep the sun (we hope so) off you. See you at Reading August 25th-27th Dominic Forristal Taunton 01823 288031
Dominic Forristal <d.forristal@unison.co.uk>
- Friday, June 23, 2000 at 14:36:11 (BST)

Re: Matt
The content of what Matt has to say is true.................we should be fighting for better recognition of our status etc ...................however!..........did he really have to be so 'militant' about it. Its not really an attitude conducive to getting the outcome student nurses deserve. And on the slagging off the RCN note...........nothing is going to change with the RCN until that 'dull as ditch water' Christine Hancock jumps down off the fence and stops towing the party line.
Ticks <ts@hotmail.com>
- Friday, June 23, 2000 at 10:54:51 (BST)

Well said Matt
I would just like to say that Matt Richardson has the right idea of what we all should be pushing for. The last thing we want to do is find ourselves having to give up the course that we love because we can`t afford to live away from home. Even those that live with their parents must find it hard. If we all push for better wages now then those who want to enter the proffession like ourselves won`t be put off. For the work that we all do, and all the shit that we have to take, we should be paid like millionaires!! This ones for you Matt!
Cher <cheryl.kinloch@strath.ac.uk>
- Thursday, June 22, 2000 at 13:13:17 (BST)

Medical Officers Required
Medical Officers Required: Coral Cay Conservation are a non-profit making charity who require volunteer unpaid Medical Officers to join scuba diving and terrestrial rainforest expeditions in The Philippines and Honduras, Central America. If you are a qualified nurse, doctor or paramedic who wishes to enjoy at least 3 months in an exotic and remote location practicing real hands on nursing and medical cover for volunteers and the local community, having a great time in the process and diving on some of the most spectacular coral reefs in the world, then contact us for more information, ring: Coral Cay Conservation on 0207 498 6248 and ask for Monty Halls (Operations Manager) or Julie O'Brien (Administration Manager). E-mail ccc@coralcay.demon.co.uk or mh@coralcay.org Website: www.coralcay.org
Lorraine Poore <lorraine.poore@thornbury-nursing-services.co.uk>
- Tuesday, June 20, 2000 at 17:04:55 (BST)

Commission for Health Improvement
Nurses interested in Clinical Goverance may be interested in the newly established Commission for Health Improvement CHI is the NHS equivalent of OFSTED for schools, however unlike OFSTED CHI's 150 staff will be supplemented on inspection teams by active nurses, doctors, managers and other members of the health care team and ever CHI report will be published. Over a four year cycle CHI will inspect every NHS trust to ensure clinical governance is working, the body will ensure GP's and hospitals are examining the outcome of treatment by monitoring infection rates, readmission rates, unnecessary deaths and complications - and have systems in place to improve failing services CHI are in the process of developing a comprehensive web site and producing a range of material
CHI Tel: 0207 277 3100, draft web site www.doh.gov.uk/chi

Michael Walker <m.m.walker@unison.co.uk>
- Tuesday, June 20, 2000 at 12:32:39 (BST)

Career development loan
I was refused a career development loan due to being on a bursary, if you are a degree student you may be entitled to one. It seems equality in nursing rules.
Anne-Marie Osborne <h9150376@hud.ac.uk>
- Tuesday, June 20, 2000 at 10:46:22 (BST)

Clinical Governance
Can anyone help? Please could you send, or give me journal references/White paper/News paper references for Clinical Governance. Many thanks!!
S Adams <STRATH@adamspurrrr.freeserve.co.uk>
- Tuesday, June 20, 2000 at 09:24:10 (BST)

Employed or Not Employed
This subject is interesting, in the sense that on one hand we are classed as working and on the other we are classed as not working. This is very handy for the Government! I wonder what the legal implication of this is, as we surely can be only one or the other, and not both! Any Legal Eagles out there who could throw some light on this?
Catherine <catherine1jod31@hotmail.com>
- Monday, June 19, 2000 at 20:50:01 (BST)

Career Development Loans
I was told by my university admissions office that, quite rightly, I was not entitled to a student loan, but I could apply for a career development loan, but not until I've started training. I've got all the information and application form for when I start training in September but have borrowed money on the strength of applying for this career development loan. Hope to god I get it otherwise I'm buggered!!!
Heather <Leheluja@aol.com>
- Monday, June 19, 2000 at 15:57:32 (BST)

Supernumerary Status
Alot of mis-information is being fed about the move to a salary and employee status meaning loss of supernumerary status. This is rubbish! UNISON is campaigning to retain and strengthen this status which we all know has many flaws anyway. That's why many of you were requested to work Christmas/New Year period.

- Monday, June 19, 2000 at 15:43:25 (BST)

UNISON & RCN meet Alan Milburn
Two UNISON Nursing Students from Yorkshire and the Humber will be part of the delegation meeting the Secretary of State for Health on 26 June. If you would like me to pass on a message please let me know. Best wishes to all in this lively campaign.
Karen Towner <k.towner@unison.co.uk>
- Monday, June 19, 2000 at 15:33:55 (BST)

UNISON & RCN Meeting with Alan Milburn
All nursing students and midwives will be pleased that the Minister of state has agreed to meet five student representaives from UNISON and the the RCN on Monday June 26th Now is the time to make a stand and say no to poverty - We can win !
Michael Walker <m.m.walker@unison.co.uk>
- Monday, June 19, 2000 at 14:07:29 (BST)

Salary vs Bursary
I think student nurses have a major problem. Some organisations view us as students and others as employees. For example, I approached income support and was told that as I was a student nurse, no matter what my income was or how many dependents I had, I was not entitled to any help for the simple fact that as a nursing student I was WORKING more than 16 hours a week. So are we studnets or employees? As a STUDENT nurse I am not entitled to a student loan or access funds unlike the rest of the poplation of students. So I then approaced the bank to ask for a career development loan, but was told that STUDENT nurses are not eligible. So what is the point of this student status, it seems to be of no benefit for someone training to be a nurse.

- Monday, June 19, 2000 at 14:03:22 (BST)

A UNITED FRONT
I took the time last week to visit the RCN web site, which I found most interesting. It seems the RCN do want to reduce the poverty faced by student nurses. But my main point is, what are the RCN doing to get us a higher bursary? They seem to agree that we are worth more than the pitance we are living on, but I could see no strategy to implement the plan. In short what will the RCN do for those of us who are struggling to survive on our bursaries?
Anne-Marie Osborne <h9150376@hud.ac.uk>
- Monday, June 19, 2000 at 13:56:22 (BST)

RCN V Unison
My union better than your union...........playground politics and a complete waste of time. Both the RCN and Unison have their own strengths and weaknesses..............I know as I've been a member of both. While the student reps have got the attention of Allan Milburn they should have their say........and you should take advantage of this and send in your questions. All you are doing Matt is representing and encouraging the one thing that has let nurses down over the years and that is a lack of a united front. Work together pratt!! Dont encourage divisions...............great team player you are going to make in your career mate..............get a grip and no more childish e-mails hey!! p.s what the **** is an RCN monkey anyway! cus it seems to me that the same peanuts are being fed to all of us!
Jane <janemd@hotmail.com>
- Monday, June 19, 2000 at 10:30:03 (BST)

Salary vs Poverty
Well said Matt!!!!!
Catherine <catherine1jod31@hotmail.com>
- Sunday, June 18, 2000 at 16:16:42 (BST)

SALARY Vs. POVERTY
If you really care about the future of nursingin the UK, follow Unison's lead and fight for salary status. We don't want to live in poverty. You pay peanuts, you get RCN monkeys. Listen to Unison, they actually care about student nurses. They want us to have a better standard of living whilst we are training and they are down to earth, unlike RCN, who have their heads firmly rooted up their arses. Think logically, think Unison. Do you really feel valued as a student nurse? Do you really feel you are being paid properly, if yes, stick with RCN. If no, do the right thing and join Unison and campaign for a fair wage, not a shit one. Think abour the future of nursing. Think full stop. Stand up for yourself.
Matt Richardson <nrb99mjr@shef.ac.uk>
- Saturday, June 17, 2000 at 23:57:35 (BST)

RCN Address
Thats 20 Cavendish Square not number 1 oops!

- Saturday, June 17, 2000 at 16:37:12 (BST)

Meeting with the Secretary of State for Health
To all Nursing and Midwifery Students in the UK You may remember that at RCN Congress this year, Alan Milburn, the Secretary of State for Health, agreed to meet and talk with nursing and midwifery students. The RCN have received an official invitation to attend this meeting. The meeting will take place on 26 June and 5 students from across the UK will be attending. The 5 have been selected to ensure a UK perspective of the ANS membership. It is essential that YOU play a part in this meeting. You can do this by sending me your ideas, concerns and issues that you want raised. As you can see from the date above, this needs to be done as soon as possible. Please e-mail me at gemma.hale@rcn.org.uk or write to me at Gemma Hale c/o Tracey Barton - Student Administrator DNPP Royal College of Nursing 1 Cavendish Square London W1M 0AB I look forward to hearing receiving your replies Gemma Hale Student Member of Council Student Sabbatical Officer RCN Association of Nursing Students
Gemma Hale <gemma.hale@rcn.org.uk>
- Friday, June 16, 2000 at 10:26:01 (BST)

Getting a Job
I am about 4 months off qualifying as a RGN and I have just recieved my first job application form to fill in and I want to really make a good job of it. Has anyone out there got any good tips on how to sell yourself on an application form?
Kate <sikate@supanet.com>
- Wednesday, June 14, 2000 at 12:51:52 (BST)

Think carefully!
If you want to read one of the most sensible arguments about the future of the bursary have a look on the RCN website www.rcn.org.uk then go into Nursing Students, then Student Chat Enjoy!

- Tuesday, June 13, 2000 at 21:08:12 (BST)

Thanks to you all our there
Great site, all student nurse's need to be on a full wage. Come on Tony, "wake up" your today's student nurse's are tomorrow's NHS front line staff and the backbone of the Health Service in the UK. So pay up now before its too late.
Dennis Robson <dennis@leisure.karoo.co.uk>
- Tuesday, June 13, 2000 at 18:07:31 (BST)

STUDENT NURSE POVERTY
JUST A QUICK MESSAGE TO URGE AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE TO JOIN THE PARTY AT THE ANGEL OF THE NORTH. It looks like it will be a great day, but we need your support.
Anne-Marie Osborne <h9150376@hud.ac.uk>
- Monday, June 12, 2000 at 16:09:01 (BST)

Salary v Poverty
"Angels of the North descend on Gateshead" Wednesday 5 July - the NHS 52nd birthday. Pending agreement from Gateshead Council UNISON Student Nurses are invited to travel free to the Angel of the North (Britain's largest statue) just off A1 to step up their campaign to return to a salary and receive full employee protection and rights. Coaches from Universities of Bradford, Huddersfield, Hull, Leeds, Sheffield and York. Arriving Gateshead at 12 noon for photo call - uniforms please. Then a birthday party with live band and of course a birthday cake - bring your own picnic. Depart no later than 3pm. Strictly first come, first served. So book your place now!
Karen Towner <k.towner@unison.co.uk>
- Thursday, June 08, 2000 at 13:39:28 (BST)

Catherine (bursary)
Geez Catherine, your putting yourself in for ALOT of email! I would have emailed you myself in agreement, only I felt sorry for your email server and decided not to! If there are any London SN's who want to get a protest or something together, get in touch - darn, I think I have put myself up for the email embardment too! Cheers :-)
Claire <ClaireMacL>
- Thursday, June 08, 2000 at 02:06:29 (BST)

Bursary
Well Said Selina! Come on you lot, do you want more money or not. Mail me if you do, especially you nursing students from York!
Catherine <catherine1jod31@hotmail.com>
- Wednesday, June 07, 2000 at 20:46:22 (BST)

Do you want more bursary?
If your answer is yes, ask yourself what you have done about it. Your answer is probably the same as mine 'not alot'. I now realise that we have to get off our backsides and do something about it or nothing will get done. Our student reps can't do anything without our support. Contact your student rep and see what you can do eg. stage a sit in or demonstration. If we all make the effort we can make a difference. The question is are you going to make the effort too? If so well done! If not please stop complaining how hard done by you are and join a proffession that doesn't need committment and leadership as you are on the wrong course!
Selina <n.s.l.bennett@lineone.net>
- Wednesday, June 07, 2000 at 20:23:22 (BST)

POVERTY AND THE STUDENT NURSE
We have had an idea to do a demonstration at the Angel of the North on July 5th (the birthday of the NHS). UNISON may be able to help with travelling expenses please let me know what other students think about this. We really need to unite and fight for our salaries. (Hello matt - liked your message.
Anne-Marie Osborne <h9150376@hud.ac.uk>
- Wednesday, June 07, 2000 at 14:12:59 (BST)

Any Wrexham Maelor Students out there?/Student Midwives
Great Site! I was wondering wether any students/staff nurses from Wrexham Maelor Hospital are reading this? After I trained in Wrexham (2/95 intake) I worked on Samaritan ward, then came to London to work. I've lost contact with so many people, it would be great to hear what's going on back home? Any student midwives currently studying, need to pick your brains!! Hint to those about to qualify: Opthalmic Nursing is a nice cushy number, you'll climb the ranks very quickly!! Merry Xmas!"!!
Carl Evans <midwifeman@another.co.uk>
- Tuesday, June 06, 2000 at 20:47:15 (BST)

Full text journals
Sarah: Most online journals require a subscription account. Your university will probably have an account for on line access. Ask at your library they should be able to provide you with a user name and password so you can gain access from home.
Chris <chris@cduffy23.freeserve.co.uk>
- Sunday, June 04, 2000 at 17:04:10 (BST)

Great Web site
What a brilliant web site. I'm into the branch section of my training and this site is excellent for support, it's nice to see no-one else can survive on a bursary. Anyway, no more complaining. Hope everyone is doing well with their course. I would welcome e-mails from anyone who fancies a chat about their training. Bye for now Kate XX
Kate Barnett <barnettk@fsmail.co.uk>
- Sunday, June 04, 2000 at 14:41:08 (BST)

Journal articles on the web
Does anyone know if it is possible to read full text jounal articles on the internet. Iknow of plenty of sites, but they only contain abstracts.
Sarah <sarahandkev@supanet.com>
- Sunday, June 04, 2000 at 14:21:20 (BST)

Empowerment: HELP!!!!
Hi, I'm a 1st yr student at Kings College, London and I am having major last minute troubles with an essay on empowerment. If anyone has any good info or resources I would be really, really grateful! Thanks and good luck to everyone with their courses.
Charlotte <marktomlin@clara.co.uk>
- Sunday, June 04, 2000 at 12:13:50 (BST)

GOOD LUCK!
Good Luck Anita! If you ever get stuck or want to know anything, just ask us lot in here, or other students or staff on your placements/college. Have fun - and all the best to you.
Catherine <nurses-r-us@england.com>
- Saturday, June 03, 2000 at 14:04:45 (BST)

3 weeks to go!!!!
Hi everyone - just 3 weeks until I start my training at Leighton Hospital in Crewe. I've not heard anything about my bursary yet, any ideas!!! I'm so excited, but a bit apprehensive, I've just got to pass my medical on the 15th and it's all systems go! yippee!!!
Anita Keal <anita.keal@ic24.net>
- Saturday, June 03, 2000 at 13:24:26 (BST)

Oncology Links

Hi Sarah,

There are some good links on the NRE Nursing Research Engine on the Nursing Portal. Just do a search for 'oncol' and you will hopefully find something you will be able to use.


Nigel <webmaster@thornbury-nursing-services.co.uk>
- Saturday, June 03, 2000 at 01:50:16 (BST)

Hi everyone
I have had my next placement and it is oncology. Does anyone know of any decent web sites or have any info on this speciality. I'd be most grateful if you could pass it on to me.
Sarah <sarahandkev@supanet.com>
- Saturday, June 03, 2000 at 00:15:26 (BST)

Elderley branch
Wouldnt having an 'Elderley Care' Branch reduce the opportunities for those qualifying in this branch. Care of the Elderley is really enjoyable and rewarding, however why as a qualified nurse why reduce your options to move into other areas of healthcare. We all change our minds sooner or later of what clinical areas we wish to practise, as our careers develop.
Jan <janp@hotmail.com>
- Friday, June 02, 2000 at 11:43:51 (BST)

Elderly care
I don't think a seperate branch of nursing would solve the problem of how the elderly are treated. I think it is the system, especially in the area of mental health that needs to be changed. We lock them in for there own protection, then we tell them when to eat & what to eat, where they can live, who can or cannot visit & when they can visit. In most cases they pay for this, and there crime????? They got old!!
Chris <chris@cduffy23.freeserve.co.uk>
- Friday, June 02, 2000 at 00:35:37 (BST)

Nursing
Does anyone think we should have a separate branch for the elderly, like we have adult, child, learning disability, mental health, why not one for the elderly, as these people get treated like dirt a lot of the time. What do you lot think?
Maria
- Thursday, June 01, 2000 at 19:06:46 (BST)

UNIVERSITY OF YORK STUDENTS
If any student nurses attending the University of York and the Ripon Campus read the messages on this board and wish to do something to help us get more pay, then please e mail me!!! I am sure I am not the only student studying at York! : )
Catherine <catherine1jod31@hotmail.com>
- Thursday, June 01, 2000 at 19:03:09 (BST)

Poverty
I really feel for all you students. I trained 10 years ago and earned a salary! it didn't feel like much but I managed to feed, clothe myself, socialise and run a car!! Iwas rich compared with university students, (as my boyfriend was then) and did I feel well off! I really feel for you all, and agree that you should be paid a wage! happy campaigning people!!
Jan <jan_marshall@yahoo.com>
- Thursday, June 01, 2000 at 15:36:57 (BST)

Salary vs Poverty
Don't miss your chance to "Have a say on a better NHS". Its an opportunity to state your views eg about how the NHS would benefit by paying nursing students a salary and giving them employee protection status. Yesterday (31st) the Dept of Health launched National Census Day and you have until 5 June to have your say! Simply feed your views into the National Plan website www.nhs.uk/nationalplan and follow the instructions. What are your top three? Salary, employee protection, travel costs for clinical placements? Come on UNISON members let's do what we do best - campaign - unity is strength! Leaflets also available from Safeway, Morrisons, Boots, Superdrug, GP surgeries and public libraries.
Karen Towner <k.towner@unison.co.uk>
- Thursday, June 01, 2000 at 15:20:12 (BST)

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