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Money, money money.
I get the jist from the last couple of messages that people want to unify and urge the unions to pay student nurses in their third year who are included in their rotas. Degree students are not included in the rotas at any stage in their training (theoretically). This is basically one of the main reasons for the differences in the pay. However, as a fourth year degree student, I would say that being in the numbers (excluding the first placements) makes no difference. The supernumerary status is not always acknowledged and sometimes I think that if it isn't then, degree students would be better of being included in the rosta and being paid for it. What I'm basically saying then is do you think that degree students should be included in the rotas as some stage in their training? If so, then this would bridge a gap between diploma and degree differences and would also help to fight for better monitary conditions unified.
Rosie <hiphopyoyang@yahoo.com>
- Thursday, August 31, 2000 at 20:11:32 (BST)
Anyone done an elective abroad?
Hi. I am a fourth year student compiling a dissertation on nursing students who choose to do an elective abroad. If anyone has done one or knows anyone who has, can they e-mail me. I would be most grateful for this. Thank you.
rosie <hiphopyoyang@yahoo.com>
- Thursday, August 31, 2000 at 19:54:38 (BST)
Don't hold others back who are at least trying to do something about our pay problems........
I'd like to echo the thoughts of the previous message senders. As for Jim, well I bet that you wouldn't turn down an increase in your bursary if it was down to the hard work and dedication of other people using their own free time to help out ungrateful, unnsupportive, unhelpful individuals like yourself. I wonder if you have the financial commitments that some of the other students have? Don't inhibit others hard work with comments that honestly aren't worth the time of day. These people obviously CARE about their and other peoples situation and probably don't have someone in the background with an open chequebook to bail them out if they get into financial trouble. With an attitude like that are you sure that you are in the right occupation? I doubt it.
Tim <tim.storey1@btinternet.com>
- Thursday, August 31, 2000 at 15:14:09 (BST)
And a big round of applause for the tosser of the week
Well done Jim. It's attitudes like yours that have kept nursing excactly where it is today...........excactly nowhere! You aren't a direct descendant of Florence 'all nurses should be doctors handmaidens' Nightingale are you! It'll be a long time before we 'get over ourselves' as we are to busy trying to 'get over' how tossers like you can dare to voice useless opinions!
Jan <jlm@btinternet.com>
- Thursday, August 31, 2000 at 10:11:45 (BST)
Me again........
Oh, and as for you Mr Pimmion - if we all adapted your attitude we'd never get anywhere would we? I presume we'd all be wearing trendy hats and aprons and working for 5 shillings an hour!
Ange <ange.chris@ntlworld.com>
- Wednesday, August 30, 2000 at 19:12:19 (BST)
Thanks!
Thanks Phil and Daniel for the tip-off about the new cybernurse website - excellent stuff! Does anyone know where I can find some info about detailed nursing care for stroke patients? thanks!
Ange <ange.chris@ntlworld.com>
- Wednesday, August 30, 2000 at 19:10:00 (BST)
Winge winge winge
Why don't you all stop winging. You should have realised by now that you're never going to get a raised bursary. Get over it.
Jim Pimmion
- Wednesday, August 30, 2000 at 16:41:09 (BST)
Christine Hancock's Pay
There are some telling comparisons at www.nursing-pay.com.......
Destitute of Dundee
- Wednesday, August 30, 2000 at 06:17:48 (BST)
Time to bury the hatchet...........but not in each others backs!
Once again I have come to this website and found diploma and degree nursing students bickering about who is better (or worse) off than who. Why are we arguing amongst ourselves instead of taking it up with the people who can actually change policy. It is heartening to see that people are getting really fed up with having to take a second job to finance a meagre living. But the argument has to be constructive and directed. The RCN's students conference (16 & 17 September) will be an ideal opportunity for those of us that will be attending to raise these issues in an appropriate forum. The people who are (allegedly) representing student nurses (the RCN) are going to be put on the spot with some pretty tough questions. I think that the main point will be some sort of employee status for 3rd year students who are expected to take their place on the ward rostas for no extra pay (it stinks). Why should we do it? How do people expect student nurses to be motivated on their placements while doing night shifts for no extra pay? What are we going to do about it? I'm sure that a lot of people will cringe as soon as I mention "industrial action", but look at what the Irish nurses achieved last year with only 1 day of action, I really hope it wont come to that! Do we value ourselves so little that we won't fight for pay that will at least enable us to get by without having to take a second job? The government will try to get away with as much as they can if it means not paying nurses any more money, be assured of that. Just out of interest, does anybody know how much Christine Hancock gets paid a year? I was absolutely left speechless when I heard. So let's get some "Esprite de corps" amongst the ranks of student nurses. We are all up against it financially, some more than others but let's stick together and try to make the difference.
Tim <tim.storey1@btinternet.com>
- Tuesday, August 29, 2000 at 23:53:20 (BST)
Mature Student
Hi I am 39 years old and six months into a diploma course. I am due to go on my first placement in November, I am both excited and apprehensive, any tips anyone can give for a happy and successful first placement
Hilary <hilary2000@tinyworld.co.uk>
- Tuesday, August 29, 2000 at 21:26:29 (BST)
To Christine
It's not a lot when you have 2 children to keep on it and run a home and a car to get to college, as I have.
Anita
- Tuesday, August 29, 2000 at 21:09:01 (BST)
Thank you
Thanks to everyone who replied If anyone wants to join the pay for placements campaign then just e-mail me
Angela Smith <angela09@btinternet.com>
- Tuesday, August 29, 2000 at 21:08:50 (BST)
Diploma financial support
Anita (31st July), I cannot believe that you are sound far from satisfied with the financial support for students studying for a diploma. You are right in saying that you are not entitled to any loans, but receiving £100 a week, why do you need loans? I receive £600 a year grant (which is equivalent to £50 a month) and have access to £1200 a year student loan. However, if I take this up, every penny has to be paid back. At least you can spend the money you receive without the worry of when you're going to pay it back!! How do you think us degree students manage, especially the ones who have moved away from home?? Get into debt, and then pay it back. It would be difficult enough to live on nurses' wages, even more so, when you have debts to pay off.
Christine <charcombe@yahoo.com>
- Tuesday, August 29, 2000 at 13:30:32 (BST)
Marching for OUR future
I find myself compelled to write again following another inspired message. I am intersted to see how many people are interested in marching for more money RE. Daniel's messages monday 28 august. reply! reply! reply! lets do it lets show our anxieties, anger and disgust.
Lynette <lynettecmorgan@hotmail.com>
- Monday, August 28, 2000 at 22:18:34 (BST)
RCN Presidential Election
I am running for office as RCN President. All RCN members will have recently got ballot papers. Students are getting a raw deal and the RCN can do more. See my web site at http://come.to/ray-rowden and do send any views or questions. Ray Rowden
Ray Rowden <ray@rolf99.freeserve.co.uk>
- Monday, August 28, 2000 at 13:17:26 (BST)
Hi there, this is the first time I have logged on to this website, and looking back over previous messages, I get the picture that we are all united in the fact that we need more bloody money. I reckon the best way to achieve this would be a march on the capital. This would not involve industrial action and would give us maximum publicity. If we got more money I wouldn't have to do stupid things like I am doing now, ie 1 of the many night shifts I have done over the last year. I would be really interested to hear from anyone else who is thinking about this, or anyone who is already planning this. I feel the public should know about the hard work we do on the wards for peanuts. I sometimes feel that student nurses keep the wards running with all the bank shifts we do. Come on people lets sort it out.
Daniel Allerton <dja199@soton.ac.uk>
- Monday, August 28, 2000 at 05:09:16 (BST)
Foreign student
Hi, I wonder if anyone can help me. I am very interested in Nursing Course in UK. I need the information in financial support for student Nurses on both degree and the diploma couse. If you have this infor, please Email to me. Thanks.
Su <g.alice@mailcityasia.com>
- Sunday, August 27, 2000 at 04:57:39 (BST)
Mature students ahoy!
Hello, I am the one who sent in a message saying that we must fight to get our pay increased...When I was at university previously I was not that bothered about how much money I got because my prioroties were mainly getting drunk...Now they are looking after three children, building future prospects, security for my family and mostly being something other than mummy (as much as I do love that!!!). so, I am 27 and I have only one issue re. the probs of no money! If you embarking on the nursing courses I would suggest you you research what money you are entitled to...but watch this space I am going to keep fighting untill we are ALL recognised as the potential that we are!
Lynette <lynettecmorgan@hotmail.com>
- Friday, August 25, 2000 at 20:39:19 (BST)
E-mail me
Hi, I am just about to start my third year nursing Dip (Project 2000) and I have found this web page, so I thought I might just put my E-mail address on and see if anyone will reply. I am in the Merseyside area, E-mail studentnursealan@btinternet.com
ALAN <studentnursealan@btinternet.com>
- Thursday, August 24, 2000 at 00:43:27 (BST)
Re Law and Ethics
Hi Catherine, I recently wrote an assignment on communication, which I know has nothing to do with Law and Ethics, but I found that there were loads of books on the ward I was placed on which were a great help. If you're on a mental health ward at the moment then they ought to have some decent material. Otherwise, if you're a member of Unison, they can do a literature search for you.
Matt Richardson <matto.richo@ntlworld.com>
- Wednesday, August 23, 2000 at 16:55:58 (BST)
Law and Ethics in Mental Health
Help! Can anyone point me in the direction of books, websites etc regarding law and ethics in Mental Health - or even more specific, law and ethics regarding the donation of organs of a mentally ill person, the decision of organ donation being made by the ill persons family, and not by consent of the ill person. Thanks.
Catherine <catherine1jod31@hotmail.com>
- Tuesday, August 22, 2000 at 22:02:37 (BST)
Pay for Placements
I would love to hear from anyone interested in a campaign I am starting Called Pay for Placements. I have a petition that I can E-mail to people so they can get people in their class to sign. If you would like more information or you want a copy of the petition then please E-mail me at angela09@btinternet.com and I will reply ASAP Cheers Everyone From Ang
Angela Smith <angela09@btinternet.com>
- Tuesday, August 22, 2000 at 21:41:23 (BST)
mature students
Im 34 , and there are lots of people on the degree and diploma course im on who are older. We have a good time and support each other amidst books, KIDS argghh and studying! Tend to gravitate together but still have fun with younger students. Its worth the effort as we can bring experience to the course ( we are told!) and a different perspective on life which is valuable. Be prepared for staff who think despite your age youve never done anything before ~grin! attitudes exist but being older helps to deal with this too. I'd say go for it and if you want to chat email me id be happy to discuss pros and cons. Best of luck. Jo.
jo lee <jo@kunchai.freeserve.co.uk>
- Tuesday, August 22, 2000 at 21:25:20 (BST)
Mature Students
I am considering nurse training, but as a single parent nearing the ripe old age of 40 can anyone out there tell me if they have started training at this time of life and if they have been successful or not? I would be grateful for any constructive advice...thanks
Susan Witt <susanwitt39@yahoo.co.uk>
- Monday, August 21, 2000 at 23:02:29 (BST)
Sociology essay
I have to do a timed essay on inequalities in access to health care. I am desperatley trying to find a copy of The Black Report 1980, but with no luck! I have exhaused all the government web sites and was wondering if any kind soul could point me in the right direction. Many thanks.
Angela <stephen@sbidgood.fsnet.co.uk>
- Saturday, August 19, 2000 at 14:00:00 (BST)
on the other side of the fence!!!!
I am a first year student and have just been in hospital as a patient for an operation this week. Mmmmm well what can I say? I might as well not have been there!! After my op, I saw the doctor while I was high on morphine and she wanted me to stay in for another night, huh, that soon changed the next day when my bed was needed, I was asked if I would sit in the day room until I could go home at 2pm when my prescription would be ready,I was told that the doctor had not seen me today as I was having my breakfast! this was 9.30am, and I felt like death and just wanted to sleep so I refused to give up my bed and said I wanted to get into it for a while - they reluctantly relented and my prescription rapidly appeared before 12!!!! Not once were my stitches looked at and when I pointed this out, a student looked at them and off I went home to an empty house to look after myself, luckily my parents took my 5 year old to their house for the night. I don't blame the staff particularly, as I know that we lack nurses but come on this was a bit ridiculous, I was treated as though I'd just had a tooth out, when in fact I'd just ended my capability of having any more children, not pleasant. Having said all that, the students were great and I'm sure they will make great nurses, but they are often left to take charge of situations that they need supporting in by qualified staff.

- Friday, August 18, 2000 at 21:05:08 (BST)
advice
Ihave applied for the nursing diploma and wish for some advice regarding life on the ward. What is it like? Why are so many qualified nurses leaving the profession?I am very interested in nursing as a career and I am a little concerned at this state of affairs.Iwould be grateful for a reply!
liz jenks <elizabethjenks@virgin.net>
- Friday, August 18, 2000 at 11:48:59 (BST)
Here's a good short course on arterial blood gas interpretation!
Interpreting ABGs. The normal range for CO2 in an Arterial Blood Gas is 35-45(mmHg) AND within 35 to 45 minutes I can teach you to understand & interpret ABG's. I have put together a***3 Step Method Self Tutorial packet; it is the best & easiest way to understand & interpret ABGs. Learning the ABGs is a dreaded and painstaking task but you can make an easy A+; my 3 Step Method makes it fun & simple! "THANKS" DAVID Click on my web-site for info. http://homepages.go.com/~abghelp/abg.html
David <abghelp@mailcity.com>
- Friday, August 18, 2000 at 07:33:12 (BST)
Re: advice
Thanks guys for the advice! I'll give it a go and hopefully see u in there. Jo
jo lee <jo@kunchai.freeserve.co.uk>
- Thursday, August 17, 2000 at 19:30:12 (BST)
Jo...
I think it might be that your browser aint set up correctly, try enabling the use of JavaScript. I can access it fine, Hopefully you can get it sorted and we can see you in there. :) Good Luck.
Dan
- Thursday, August 17, 2000 at 17:08:20 (BST)
Cybernurse Chat
No Problems Here Jo... What Browser are you using? And have you configured it properly, Maybe you should just drop the webmaster at cybernurse an e-mail He helped me. Hopefully see you in there Mandy
Amanda
- Thursday, August 17, 2000 at 16:51:59 (BST)
Scripting Problems

Hi Jo,

It sounds like a javascript problem which is one of the major downsides of this type of chat area. The Portal Forum is an HTML based chat area that is fast and active and compatable with most browsers. http://www.nursing-portal.com/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl. Come along and give it a try.


Nigel <webmaster@thornbury-nursing-services.co.uk>
- Wednesday, August 16, 2000 at 21:40:37 (BST)
Re: cybernurse
Anyone else having problems accessing chat facility in cybernurse site? My puter keeps telling me I've a script error and won't allow access - anyone have the foggiest what that means? help !!
Jo Lee <jo@kunchai.freeserve.co.uk>
- Wednesday, August 16, 2000 at 21:19:44 (BST)
That New website
Hey Dan.. Thats spooky... I've just left the message about CyberNurse UK, well done on winning that book-token, I'll prob see you in their chat room sometime. http://www.cybernurse.org.uk Cheers everybody Phil
Phil
- Monday, August 14, 2000 at 12:26:38 (BST)
A good nusing website
I have found a cool nursing website called cybernurse uk at cybernurse.org.uk and have also won a £10 booktoken which I have actually recived in the post. Well worth a visit. http://www.cybernurse.org.uk just follow the link.
Daniel
- Monday, August 14, 2000 at 12:22:39 (BST)
CyberNurse UK
Has anyone else found this site?? It's a Brill site, Just thought I'd let everyone know about it. great nursing info... great NEW site. It seems very good for us student nurses, and its got an EASY competition page. Pay it a visit...
Phil
- Monday, August 14, 2000 at 12:20:58 (BST)
Support
It wasn't a personal dig at you Lynette, I am just tired of nurses complaining about low wages and poor working conditions but not willing to do anything about it. The only way nurses will be heard is if they all speak at the same time with the same message.
Tim <tim.storey1@btinternet.com>
- Saturday, August 12, 2000 at 11:27:01 (BST)
In agreement of Tim!
Well that was an interesting message Tim it was just what I was trying to get at. I hope you didn't interpret that I was getting in a huff about the difference in who,what and where because in fact I was responding to a previous message which was asking why there were differences! Anyway, my actual insentive was to get somone like yourself to have the same opinion lets rally together and make a stand. I would like to hear more info on this meeting please!
LYNETTE <lynettecmorgan@hotmail.com>
- Friday, August 11, 2000 at 21:14:11 (BST)
Studying nursing - for Sammi
Sammi, I am very surprised you haven't had loads of people replying telling you what its like! Basically, (at my college anyhow) approx 40 hours a week either in college or in placements, doesn't include any study time most weeks... loads of biology, sociology, psychology, skills for nursing practice and more. Its not easy - especially if you are not used to shift-work or are not too good at self-directed study and knowing your weaknesses... having said that, it is very rewarding and I am sure it is worth it in the end ;-) good luck with it (ps why the diploma if you are doing A-levels? just curious, I am on the diploma, though accelerated cause I already have a degree).
Claire <ClaireMacL@aol.com>
- Thursday, August 10, 2000 at 22:51:41 (BST)
HELP! Info. wanted on becoming student nurse....
I'm applying to do the diploma in nursing next year, I am still at school doing A-levels. I want to know what work is involved, many thanx if anyone can help Pleeeaassee. (Pretty pleeeeeeaaaseee).xxx
Sammi <mathiasgou8gv@supanet.com>
- Wednesday, August 09, 2000 at 22:02:13 (BST)
Nurses...........Divided we stand.
I find it absolutely incredible that nurses are bickering between themselves about why do diploma students get a bursary and the degree students do not. It is an intolerable situation which should not be allowed to go on. As student nurses we need to be more unified and take the issues head on to the people who "think" they are in charge. The RCN students conference is taking place in Leicester this September where I intend to raise these issues. As students or even qualified nurses our biggest failing is that we don't stick together. Most of the problems encountered by today's generation of nurses have been caused by the reluctance of yesterdays nurses to stand up for what they want. You only have to look at the industrial action taken by the Irish nurses approximately 1 year ago to see how well unity between your peers works. It doesn't help to squabble amongst ourselves, it doesn't achieve anything.
Tim <tim.storey1@btinternet.com>
- Tuesday, August 08, 2000 at 22:27:49 (BST)
MONEY
I sent my message by mistake, direct to somebody, I think Sarah? sorry I messed up and I can't retrieve it, so I can't post it on this chat page ...basically I was responding to comments made regarding financial support for student Nurses on both the degree and the diploma courses. I wanted to see how many student Nurses are outraged by the the promises made by the Health secretary Alan Milburn. Primarily because he has shown no regard for the people already in training who are living below the required minimum for people in the UK and in fact we receive less than the benefits which are supposed to be the legal minimum!
Lynette <lynettecmorgan@hotmail.com>
- Tuesday, August 08, 2000 at 21:45:32 (BST)
NMAHP Internet project
NMAHP - The UK's Gateway to High Quality Internet Resources for Nurses, Midwives & Allied Health Professions. We are pleased to announce the success of a joint bid by the Universities of Nottingham and Sheffield and the Royal College of Nursing to develop NMAHP, a gateway to evaluated Internet resources relevant to the needs of Nurses, Midwives and Allied Health Professionals. This freely available gateway will be an integrated component of the well-established OMNI service (Organising Medical Networked Information), http://omni.ac.uk/ which is now part of BIOME - the Resource Discovery Network's health and life sciences Internet service. http://biome.ac.uk/ The project is currently seeking institutions operating in the field to become contributors, evaluating Internet resources against established and published criteria, to help build the service for the Spring 2001 launch. The project has initially been awarded funding for 2 years starting from the first of August 2000 by the Joint Information Systems Committee (JISC). Notes & further information BIOME is a health, medical and life sciences Internet gateway designed to enhance learning, research and professional development by equipping Internet users with simple and effective access to high quality Internet resources, together with support and guidance in how to use them. BIOME is part of the RDN (Resource Discovery Network - see below). Visit BIOME at http://biome.ac.uk/ The Resource Discovery Network is a federated network of subject-based Internet services funded by JISC (the Joint Information Systems Committee - see below). The service is committed to enhancing learning, teaching, research and professional development by providing free, effective access to high quality Internet resources selected and described by specialists throughout UK academia or closely affiliated organisations. Visit the RDN home page at http://www.rdn.ac.uk/ The JISC (Joint Information Systems Committee) is a strategic advisory committee to the UK higher and further education funding bodies. The JISC is currently funded by the Higher Education Funding Council for England, the Further Education Funding Council, the Scottish Higher Education Funding Council, the Scottish Further Education Funding Council, the Welsh Funding Councils and the Department of Higher and Further Education, Training and Employment. The JISC works in partnership with the Research Councils. For further information visit the JISC website at http://www.jisc.ac.uk/ BIOME http://biome.ac.uk/ Further information about the project is available from Rod Ward on rw@biome.ac.uk Or Telephone Lisa Gray on 0115 9249924 ext 42050
Rod <rw@biome.ac.uk>
- Tuesday, August 08, 2000 at 10:59:33 (BST)
Really brilliant site
I've just found this really brilliant nursing site called ThatNursingSite.com
Jobags <jobags_ale@yahoo.co.uk>
- Monday, August 07, 2000 at 15:55:52 (BST)
Nursing in the UK
Hey there im a 3rd year student about to finish my Bachelor of Nursing Science degree in Australia....and Iwant to come to the UK to work anybody got any hints on where to work...and if the agency work is all its stacked up to be.
Chris O'Donnell <jc111712@jcu.edu.au>
- Monday, August 07, 2000 at 12:11:58 (BST)
Regarding student loans
Anita, you think its disgusting that diploma students don't get loans whilst degree students do. However, you do get a bursary of £70-£80 a week. Degree students don't get this. I am a third year degree student. I got about £1500 grant this year and a student loan of £1700. Roughly this works out at £61 a week and don't forget that I have to pay more than half of this back.
Rosie
- Monday, August 07, 2000 at 11:45:27 (BST)
Reply to Sarah: Clinical Governance
Hi, you should take a look at The Nursing Portal for some links on clinical governance. Just use the search facility and hopefully these links will offer something useful!
Brutish Nursing Webmaster <webmaster@brutish-nursing.com>
- Monday, August 07, 2000 at 09:27:33 (BST)
Reading fest?
Anyone else from Unison on here working the Reading festival? Hey, I dont want to get lonely :-)
Claire <ClaireMacL@aol.com>
- Sunday, August 06, 2000 at 22:55:03 (BST)
Blood Glucose Monitoring
I agree with you entirely Karen about the subject of being trained to carry out this essential nursing task. I have somewhere a copy of a really good booklet produced by a diabetes specialist nurse that I could e-mail to you if I can find it.
Chris Chamberlain <chris@chamberlain.karoo.co.uk>
- Sunday, August 06, 2000 at 22:02:59 (BST)
Hello
Hello i just want to say that I am only in year 10 and next year I have got work experience in working with children.
Clare Hughes <hughesc@citvclub.co.uk>
- Sunday, August 06, 2000 at 12:10:36 (BST)
Clinical governance
I wonder if anyone can help me. I am due to qualify in January and am about to start applying for nursing posts. Rumour has it, that the key questions being asked at interviews are all about clinical governance and clinical supervision. Where can i find out more on these subjects? I'd be really greatfull for any info
Sarah <sarahandkev@supanet.com>
- Saturday, August 05, 2000 at 00:17:42 (BST)
Blood glucose training!!
I am a 3rd year student nurse in Scotland qualifying in Feb and we were told today that we are not to be taught how to test blood sugar as it is "not essential"!! WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH, has anyone got any literature or evidence about this subject as we all feel that we would like to learn this before we become "REAL NURSES!!!" and I need to produce evidence PLEASE HELP!!!
Karen <karen.koehler@btinternet.com>
- Friday, August 04, 2000 at 19:34:27 (BST)
Workplace bullying
I suffered terribly from this as a student nurse in the mid-1980's in North Wales and ended up demoted to nursing auxiliary. I have written my account of my experiences in full in readiness for a collaborative book of personal stories, and I am looking for more participants for this project. I am looking at the issue of bullying in the workplace, but not just any bullying, but specifically those people in any job or course who have been bullied or even dismissed or demoted or in any way mistreated at work, due to having particular beliefs and being activists, whether political, religious, single issue or multi-issue. I was myself involved in animal rights and I will always believe that my beliefs are what caused me to be victimised and vilified, and worst of all caused me to get two bad reports and demotion. If anyone has any similar experiences to share please email me (I may not get round to checking back here). You can be just about any sort of activist, I am seeking stories of this type of bullying, from a wide variety of types of activist, from any profession, so it doesn't even have to be something that has happened to you in the nursing profession.
Lesley Dove <100706.3632@compuserve.com>
- Friday, August 04, 2000 at 15:09:01 (BST)
Clinical training
Hi claire - yeah same here got shown and told to do a catheter on my second placement - as well as numerous injections etc. Scary stuff - but god did I learn quick ! Philosophy is see one do one ! gulp
Jo Lee <jo@kunchai.freeserve.co.uk>
- Thursday, August 03, 2000 at 21:10:20 (BST)
Curiosity
Just curious, I am an accl. diploma student... how many others have found while on clinicals that the staff nurses and midwives are very keen and willing to help you undertake tasks you are not yet trained to perform (eg. injections, catheters, IV lines). I have encountered a few, so I am interested in this!
Claire <ClaireMacL@aol.com>
- Thursday, August 03, 2000 at 00:28:35 (BST)
Pressure Sores
The Nursing Portal at www.nursing-portal.com should tell you more about pressure sores than you would ever want to know........
JB
- Wednesday, August 02, 2000 at 07:32:00 (BST)
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