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Taxation
When I first started being a student nurse, I was taxed for any extra work I did. After speaking to the tax people, they said that I can earn up to £400 a week before getting taxed. They gave me a rebate which was very nice!!! I would definately phone again and get them to give it back to you!!!! Cheers Paul
Paul Relf <p_relf@yahoo.com>
- Sunday, April 30, 2000 at 22:01:59 (BST)

This tax thing.
Having had lenthy conversations with the tax office i have discovered that my tax code is 458L which, basically means that 4580pounds divided by 12 months is around 360pounds per month, i am allowed to earn under 360 without being taxed every month, Claire you'd better look into it!
Nat Mills <nat.nat@lineone.net>
- Sunday, April 30, 2000 at 20:37:45 (BST)

Student Bursaries - Clairemacl (see down the page)
I agree with what you say Claire! It doesn't look like a lot of students are doing much to try to get their bursaries raised, perhaps because they know that getting money out of the Government is like trying to get blood out of a stone. I get £429 a month, £160 of which pays my petrol costs from Catterick to Ripon (where I study) and now they are no longer paying us travel expenses unless we travel further than our colleges!!! Basically we are learning, studying and working shifts (sometimes 'used' by nursing staff but in particular the HCAs to do their jobs)and we are always knackered!!! It's no wonder not many people want to become nurses these days, and it's okay for the Government, they don't have to worry when they are ill as they can afford to pay to go private into well staffed and well equipped swanky hospitals! I say all the students in the UK should bloody well demand a decent pay packet!!!! All who agree please let me know! Or write to Unison, who are fighting to get us a minimum of £10,000 a year. Okay - end of sermon. Thanks for reading.
Catherine <catherine1jod31@hotmail.com>
- Sunday, April 30, 2000 at 20:33:05 (BST)

LACK OF EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITES IN MENTAL HEALTH NURSING
I am 22 years old and have recently graduated from Stirling University with a degree in Mental Health Nursing. I graduated in December and I am still looking for employment. During your nurse training it is suggested that their will be plenty of job opportunities when you qualify...but to my dismay I have found no evidence of this. Altogether there were 22 Mental health students in my class, only 4 of which have been lucky enough to find employment within the NHS trust. Another 10 are employed by private nursing homes, and the rest are still unable to find a staff nurse job. I am unsure whether this is a problem solely in Scotland, or whether others who live in other parts Britain have faced the same problems. I feel totally disappointed that their is such a need for nurses on a whole, yet their are so many adequately trained people looking for employment. Unless I move from Scotland I feel that I will be unable to start my nursing career in the near future. I don't mean to put others off mental health nurse training, however, I would ask you to check beforehand the chances of employment after your 3 year training. I would not like others to go into this career disillusioned like I was.
Julie <anon2604@freeserve.co.uk>
- Sunday, April 30, 2000 at 18:49:22 (BST)

NEW Free Stuff available - Check it now!!
Brutish Nursing brings you another great offer! Go to the Free Stuff section and enter our competition to win a copy of a great new book!!
Brutish Nurisng Webmaster <webmaster@brutish-nursing.com>
- Friday, April 28, 2000 at 15:38:15 (BST)

callin all new students
to all u new and worrying students i am 6 months way from doin my final and afriad very a fraid , but i would like to say that although it has been hard it can also be alot of fun . providing u r prepared to work all the hours god sends u , only jokin or am i??? . i have 2 kids and am now on my own and have been the past 2 years it has been a struugle but im glad i stuck at it though i had my doubtin moments . i just hoppe i pass the final 3 things left to do ha ha , 2 essays and the exam . good luck 2 u all and it will be worth it in the end MMMMMM? if any one wants to cross their fingers on the 14th of sep i will appreatiate it bye.
katie <CWarbu9206@aol.com>
- Thursday, April 27, 2000 at 19:00:46 (BST)

re: tax
Are you sure you are entitled to tax free earnings? I have worked all the way through uni and got taxed on any earnings above £70 or so... I called the tax office because I was sure students were excempt, they said we are not. Just thought I would let you know, if you find out to the contrary, let me know!
claire <clairemacl@aol.com>
- Thursday, April 27, 2000 at 01:18:29 (BST)

Tax
Has anyone had any problems being taxed on bank work (or any kind of work)?, im certainly having problems, having spoken to them many times and they just keep bloody taxing me, aarrr!?!?!?!?
Nat Mills <nat.nat@lineone.net>
- Wednesday, April 26, 2000 at 22:15:06 (BST)

I wish this kind of stress made me lose weight!!
I am 6 mths away from completing my training. I'd be lying if I said that it had been easy with two children and hubby at home. Assignments have always been a bit of a trial, by the time the kids were in bed it was pushing 9.30 and who wants to tackle 7000 words then? However I'd be telling the truth if I said it'd been the best and most interesting 3 years of my life. I have been fortunate to have had more good placements than bad ones and for this I am grateful. Don't be put off by the end of the first three months when your assignment is due, you can't remember where you left your kids and your doing housework is a distance memory!(PS As has been mentioned already, the fact that we don't even get the equivalent of the minimum wage is disgusting, if they want more people interested in taking up nursing they need to pay students enough to survive on).
Mell <nursie@mdunwell.fsnet.co.uk>
- Friday, April 21, 2000 at 20:44:36 (BST)

About to start project 2000
I'm 34 and about to start my training at Leighton Hospital in Crewe, Cheshire. I'm pretty nervous even though I know the hospital quite well. Is the work unbelievably hard? How will I juggle parenthood with training? Love to hear from new students or those about to become students
Anita Keal <anita.keal@ic24.net>
- Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 15:52:32 (BST)

Sandy
There are indeed more books than you know what to do with... I have been surfing through them for the past while... one I would say not to be without is the Churchill and Livingston pulication, Nursing Practice - The Adult by Alexander et al. You didn't say if you had chosen a branch (and I cant vouch for the other books) but for Adult, it covers the CFP very thoroughly, I love it, though its £30 and VERY thick!
Claire <ClaireMacL@aol.com>
- Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 02:11:26 (BST)

books!!!!
I am just starting my nurse training at manchester university. what books would you advise to get,I have a list as long as my arm!!! you could go on buying forever what would be the most usefull thanks
sandy <sandy.lyons@btinternet.com>
- Monday, April 17, 2000 at 21:27:56 (BST)

help
Hello there I have just strted my student nursing and My first assignment is on the History of nursing. Can anyone tell me where on the web I can find details of reports such as Peach, Briggs and Judge. Thanks for any suggestions
Phil Jackson <phil@epping.co.uk>
- Monday, April 17, 2000 at 16:45:08 (BST)

re help for Julie
hi Julie, its no fun when you have been out of 'it' for a long time. Despite the vast numbers of mature students entering nurse education the support and back up still isnt wonderful. Try and find someone who is doing an Open University course. The help you receive from the OU is brilliant. Each level one course has a complete guide with it for note taking, essay writing and all the other relevant skills you need to return to study,they are centred towards the OU course of study but can be adapted and are very comprehensive. The OU unlike Nursing understands that students come from all walks of life and educational capabilities and that some people havnt studied in a long time, never mind written an essay or sat an exam. Good luck, and did you realise that you are in the prime of your life in your 30's.
Monica
- Monday, April 17, 2000 at 16:04:51 (BST)

Any support gratefully received!
Hi all, i'm a first yr student at De Montfort Uni Leics child branch and started in Jan 2000. Its all a bit taxing. I've been out of education for many yrs i'm 34! I love the student lifestyle having worked full time for 16 yrs but acedemically i'm struggling! No i'm not thick just rusty! Email me any tips and i'll be forever grateful or for just a chat about how you're getting on. Take care everyone and enjoy the easter break.Problem solving and health promotion is what i've got to look forward to all easter! Byeee
Julie <nursejue@aol.com>
- Monday, April 17, 2000 at 15:53:51 (BST)

agenda for change
please someone help me I am writing about agenda for change but knowone else appears to be if anyone has any references then please tell me. this could be the biggest thing since whitley so someone must care. I am pleading for help deadline two weeks!
charlie <heacclar@livjm.ac.uk>
- Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 14:29:28 (BST)

uk student bursaries
I notice that more and more uk nursing students are popping up, though I am a little bit perplexed as to why no one seems to be interested in the current debate involving the RCN, student reps. and parliament regarding changing the bursary to a 'living wage'. In Nursing Times this week, they calculated that we are currently living on a 'wage' of £2.60 per hour - £1 less than the mimimum wage, yet very few people seem to be reacting. This could be a very good forum for change if we all band together. Come on everyone, are you satisfied? Give opinions? Please?! :-)
claire <clairemacl>
- Saturday, April 15, 2000 at 03:06:59 (BST)

about to start nursing diploma - adult branch
Hi my name is Donna I am 30ys old and am due to start my training in Oct 2000. I am particularly interested to hear from older students with chldren to find out how they manage their childcare. I'd also like to hear from anybody else who will be training at Burton-on-Trent from Oct. 2000, or indeed from any students who can offer general advice about training.
donna <d-carey@cwcom.net>
- Saturday, April 15, 2000 at 02:11:08 (BST)

What a great site!
I have just found this site for the first time and can't believe what I have been missing. I am a 3rd year adult student with approx 5 months left. I am currently on my a&e placement and absolutely loving it. If anyone wants to contact me for advice or simply to chat please do so.
Kate <sikate@supanet.com>
- Thursday, April 13, 2000 at 20:01:17 (BST)

Wicked Website!
I have just sat down at the computer ready to attempt my easter assignment, however I got distracted by this wicked website. I didn't know there were other people with the same dilemmas as me! I'm a first year at Southampton Uni doing child branch - did any else realise just how much hard work it would be??!! If anyone wants to get in touch I'd love to hear from you, anything to stop me starting this assignment!
Rosie <moomoorosiebaby@yahoo.com>
- Tuesday, April 11, 2000 at 22:28:33 (BST)

lack of support for students
has anyother students found this? my fellow classmates and i, have noticed a lack of support and encouragement from tutors, when it comes to clincal placement settings, so much for supernumacy, that dosent exists, contrary to popular belief, students are still used as just an extra pair of hands, who do not need to be educated on the subject of nursing, theres no time for that, and if the student complains, then its cutains for them, as in the "old days" they had to do shitty jobs, thats how they learnt and we should do the same uncomplaining
jenny <captain_kirk3@hotmail.com>
- Monday, April 10, 2000 at 12:22:58 (BST)

Easy Tigers
Take it easy you two, we get enough stick as it is we don't need to be giving it to each other (except to Tony that is, nice one Jenny!!)
Lee <lnorthway@plymouth.ac.uk>
- Friday, April 07, 2000 at 17:40:35 (BST)

Re:Tony
Nice choice of words Jenny. Did you learn them at your swiss finishing school! p.s fishey fishey fishey........lets just wind you in.
Syd
- Thursday, April 06, 2000 at 12:39:09 (BST)

All NEW Section!!
An all NEW section is now available on this site giving advice and information about Nursing worlwide. Helpful advice, information and useful links on how to nurse in The USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Europe and The Middle East.
The pages are designed for UK nurses wishing to nurse abroad, but their is also a section available giving advice and info for non-UK nurses wishing to work in the UK.
We hope that this section will be useful to everyone looking to nurse abroad after or during training, and also help out all you international nurses wanting to visit and nurse in the UK. To check this section out, Click here

Webmaster <webmaster@brutish-nursing.com>
- Tuesday, April 04, 2000 at 14:51:40 (BST)

Tony the twat
Tony would be better contacting one of the porn websites like wwf.swedishpunani.com What kind of name is that any way. Tony starks my arse.
Jenny sparks
- Monday, April 03, 2000 at 20:09:56 (BST)

Old Message's now archived!!
Because of the popularity of this Open Chat page, lots of messages have been moved to an Archive so that the page doesn't become too long and slow to load. The messages will be moved to the archive at the end of each month from now on. If you want to view older messages just choose from the list at the bottom of the page.
Thanks for now, and remember to keep coming back for all the latest Student Nurse news, views and opinions!!

Webmaster <webmaster@brutish-nursing.com>
- Monday, April 03, 2000 at 15:30:59 (BST)

Well..
Actually Tony you are correct, when you are on surgical placement and there is a Gaenae list there is a certain amount of time before each procedure spent doing exactly that, but it doesn't take that long and doesn't normally require secondary inspection.
Lee (21 year old MALE student of nursing) <Lnorthway@plymouth.ac.uk>
- Monday, April 03, 2000 at 15:25:19 (BST)

A&P lesson
Someone had to ask!! Have a look in your A&P book or nursing books under.........Gynae related subjects!..........and Tony you are a very sad man, with a stock of old jokes!
Sasha
- Monday, April 03, 2000 at 11:48:20 (BST)

What is a muff?
OK must be a culture thing. What is a muff?
Kate Holleran <holleran@dcsi.net.au>
- Monday, April 03, 2000 at 05:58:00 (BST)

A & E Career prospects
Hi All! I am in my 3rd year of P2K course (RN/Dip.HE) at Northumbria University in Newcastle. I think when I finnish I would like to go into A & E. I just want to know if there's anything I can do to prepare myself so I can hold my own at interview? Also, can anyone advise me where to find a trust that is committed to training new staff i.e.ALS, ENB199 & 998? Cheers, and good luck to you all!
Andy Wilkinson <doogall.dude@virgin.net>
- Sunday, April 02, 2000 at 21:31:23 (BST)

Ey up, im a Yorkshire lad who has just started adult nursing (HDip) at The University of Sheffield. Having worked on the wards for 4 years as a nursing assistant, i thought id go for it and its great because so far we have had a lot of time off!!!!! But, seriously has anyone else found that you do get a lot of 'self directed study time'?
Nat Mills <nat.nat@lineone.net>
- Sunday, April 02, 2000 at 19:53:40 (BST)

Bo Selecta!!
Me mate Dave was tellin me that dose student nurses take a lot of time preparing their muffs. If you need an inspection I would be glad to elp. You ave me mobile number, Aye.
Tony Starks <returnofthemack@keepitsafe.co.uk>
- Saturday, April 01, 2000 at 20:44:08 (BST)

Did I read that right?
Do you all in the UK get money while on clinical? That is so fantastic. In Victoria we don't. How much is it? We have to fund ourselves completely.
Kate Holleran <holleran@dcsi.net.au>
- Saturday, April 01, 2000 at 13:20:54 (BST)

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